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#1 tg1911

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:03 PM

Just upgraded from a Athlon64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ Black Edition, to a Phenom II X4 955 Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 Black Edition.
Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P.
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The upgrade went smooth, with no major problems.
Booted up fine, and the temps are holding at acceptable levels.

The upgrade went fairly well, except for the fact that the processor isn't reading properly.
Both CPU-Z, and My Computer Properties show it as a 1.6 GHz, which is half of the 3.2 GHz it's supposed to be:
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BIOS images, the way they are set, as of now:
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Cool & Quiet is disabled:
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I'm guessing it's a BIOS setting that needs to be set, but I don't know which, or the necessary setting.
Any suggestions as to what I need to do, to get it to read at it's proper speed?

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:43 PM

Heres the first thing that pops to my mind is that its scaling it-its only reading 1.6 ghz because thats all its using right now-it will up it when its under full load. I can think of two ways to find out if this is true or not, first is to run a CPU intensive program and alt tab on and see if its changed, the other is to go into control panel, hardware, power options, create power plan, and choose all the options to maximum power and save it to that plan, and then see if that changes anything.

If that doesnt work, theres 2 settings in your BIOS that Ive never seen/played with before, that I wonder might change that, and those are CPU clock ratio and the Clock generator control, Im not entirely sure what it is, but Im guessing it might control the scaling on the CPU. when you choose those 2, what options do they give you?

Edited by the_patriot09, 11 September 2010 - 10:44 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:02 AM

CPU Clock Ratio (from mobo manual) - Allows you to alter the clock ratio for the installed CPU. The adjustable range is dependent on the CPU being used.

The settings are AUTO, x5, x5.5, x6, x6.5, x7, x7.5, .........
This continues in .5 incriments all the way to x35.
Auto, and x16, give me a 3200 Mhz reading

Clock Generator Control - no information available on this, in the mobo manual

The 2 settings on this are Auto, and Manual.
Manual allows the changing of the CPU Frequency, and the PCIE Clock.
When you click on the CPU Frequency, the available settings are:
Min = 200
Max = 500
Key in a DEC number _________

When you set the Clock Generator Control from Auto, to Manual, you get this flashing in red:

***** System Voltage NOT Optimized!! *****


EDIT:
Just tried encoding a DVD.
According to the task manager, the CPU usage was between 77 - 86%.
No change in the CPU-Z readings.
Something that did look a bit odd, while running HWiNFO32 along with CPU-Z, during the encoding.
Only one core is running at 1.6, while the other 3 are running at 1/2, or less:

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 02:41 AM

well, then you dont want to mess with the clock generator, thats definetly a overclocking tool. Does setting the clock ration manually to x16 show the 3.2 ghz on CPU-Z? and did you try maxing out the power plan in the control panel? and I guess the question I should have asked to begin with, is what version is your BIOS? If Im reading your specs right your CPU has the C2 stepping which needs version F4 or greater.

Edited by the_patriot09, 12 September 2010 - 02:44 AM.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 02:57 AM

Yes, looks like the bios doesn't support that cpu and you will have to set the multiplier manually?

I always flash to the latest MB bios before upgrading my CPU, I can remember a few cases where they wouldn't even post.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 03:05 AM

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C3 125W 4000 F8
AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C3 95W 4000 F9
AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C2 125W 4000 F4

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:21 AM

Interesting reading on the core voltage settings

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpos...amp;postcount=4
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:36 AM

BIOS version - F2.
Latest version available - F10A (2010/04/20 - Update CPU AGESA 3.7.0.0 for AMD 6core CPU)

I have 2 options as to how to update.
I can use the @BIOS function, which is an update while in Windows, over the internet.
The other option is the Q-FLASH utility, which updates from within the BIOS, via a file downloaded onto a flash drive.

I think it best to go with the Q-FLASH option, as it seems there are less chances for something to go wrong, than with the @BIOS option; lost internet connection, interference from running programs, ....

I hope I can get it on my 8 GB flash drive, as it's a big ol' file; 0.66 MB. :thumbsup:

One last question, before attempting this, do I need to change back to the Athlon processor before doing this, or can I do it with the Phenom in place?
Doing it with the Phenom would be sooooo much easier. :huh:

EDIT:
Thanks for the link, Chewy.
Checking that out, now.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:50 AM

I have used the @BIOS on my wifes motherboard and it works quite well. You shouldn't have any issues with it whatsoever.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:54 AM

Since the new phenom seems functional, just not enough for the auto controls, I would use it to flash with Q-Flash.

I guess I don't need to caution you to follow the directions exactly!

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I hope you have a heck of a cpu cooler, when all 4 cores are overvolted(or at least adequately) and all 4 engaged at 100% in a multithreaded video transcode or compression then there's going to be a lot of heat generated.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:13 AM

cryptodan,
I'm on a satellite connection, and it's not the most stable thing.
At the moment we have some heavy thunderstorms brewing, so I could lose the connection at any time.
Not good during a BIOS flash. :thumbsup:

Chewy,

I hope you have a heck of a cpu cooler, ....

COOLER MASTER V8
Computer has been running all morning, with the A/C running.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:18 AM

cryptodan,
I'm on a satellite connection, and it's not the most stable thing.
At the moment we have some heavy thunderstorms brewing, so I could lose the connection at any time.
Not good during a BIOS flash. :thumbsup:


Then disregard my advice, and I would like to add that you should probably do the update when the thunderstorms have cleared so you do not brick your machine upon a power outage or a surge that knocks your computer offline.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:21 AM

we have some heavy thunderstorms brewing


A power outage or even a glitch can be fatal during a bios flash of any kind, UPS are nice.

Nice cooler, you might need some more beef with case cooling?
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:52 AM

Then disregard my advice, and I would like to add that you should probably do the update when the thunderstorms have cleared so you do not brick your machine upon a power outage or a surge that knocks your computer offline.

A power outage or even a glitch can be fatal during a bios flash of any kind, UPS are nice.

APC Back-UPS ES 750

Nice cooler, you might need some more beef with case cooling?

Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Running 5, 120 mm case fans (2 intake, 3 exhaust), and 2 120 mm internal fans.
When I did the upgrade, I changed the direction of airflow on the HSF.
It is now blowing directly into the rear case exhaust fan.
Brought my case temps down a bit, from the norm.
Usual temps, before reversing HSF airflow, compared to present:

Temperature 0 42C (107F) - 8C drop in temp
Temperature 1 36C (96F) - 9C drop in temp
Temperature 2 44C (111F) - 9C drop in temp

So far, no matter what applications I'm running, the case temps usually stay within a couple of degrees C, of the present temps.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 11:29 AM

UPDATE:
Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Never updated a BIOS before.
All of the horror stories I've heard, made me leery of attempting it.
Took all of 2 minutes, and went smooth as silk. :thumbsup:

I want to thank the_patriot09, Chewy, and cryptodan for all of your input.
I really appreciate it.
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