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#1 legoman786

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Posted 05 November 2005 - 07:59 PM

I just recently got C&C: Gens for my PC... I got to the 4th mission in the China campaign and its just a black screen. It gets past the loading part, where the "intelligence woman" tells me wht my mission is, but when the game actually starts, it slows down considerably. As if my comps specs were 3x below the required. I don't get it. I have nothing running in the back, except the usual (Norton Internet Security, Spysweeper, ZA, SpyBot, and occasionally MSN Mesg).

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2.53ghz P4
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nVidia 5600 128mb AGP4x

please help, GENS is a kik-butt game! and it sux not being able to play it. :thumbsup:

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 05:30 AM

You shouldn't be running two firewalls at once. That can mess with your system pretty bad.
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Posted 06 November 2005 - 09:16 AM

You shouldn't be running two firewalls at once. That can mess with your system pretty bad.


Let's see if my dad wants to believe that...


I forgot to mention that as soon as the game starts (the mission) my "intelligence" gives me just one line then all I hear is a looped helicopter sound. nothing more, nothing less. and get this, I can play everything else just fine. Do you think that some files are corrupted? Is that even possible with a brand-new software? I really want to play!! Thanx much

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 10:04 AM

I think the card was overheating... because I tried it this morning and it was playing just fine. Is there a way to prevent it from overheating again? I made an intake hole for an 80mm fan in the front of the case, which cooled the system dramatically. I think the card upgrade, from a MX420 to a 5600XT, made the system heat up again.

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 11:38 AM

If you added a new graphics card, do you have a powerful enough PSU to handle it? If it isn't it can cause overheating and other graphical problems.
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Posted 06 November 2005 - 12:48 PM

Is a 250 watt PSU fine? Because I've heard real-life comments about the 6600GT running flawlessly with the same setup I have.

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 01:58 PM

Is a 250 watt PSU fine? Because I've heard real-life comments about the 6600GT running flawlessly with the same setup I have.

I wish it was that simple. :thumbsup:
It depends on the quality on the power supply, and the trustworthiness of the brand. (Just because it says it is 250W doesn't mean that in actual usage it is.) Then there is the possibility that you haven't got enough amperage on the +12V rail.

If you could list the details of your power supply and more details of your computer, so we can pour over them and see if the problem might lie there.

You can also use Everest to look at you temperatures and voltages and post them here. You find them under Computer/Sensor.


On a non-hardware front you can try shutting down everything in the background and then run C&C:Generals and see if that helps.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 08:55 AM

The computer is from Dell. If somebody would let me have a job, I wouldn't be running this computer for my games. Everst would be pointless, because there are no sensors to check for temperatures. eMachines have them, but Dell doesn't. Simple competition? I don't know. What I do know, is I really hate it when my games slow down because the company who made my computer wanted to save money.

C&C: Generals is running fine now. I don't know what happened, but it's working without a hitch. I just want to prevent this from happening again.

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 09:12 PM

Do you think an upgrade to a 300 watt PSU will fix my problem?

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 11:46 AM

You could try this: Run down to some computer store where you can return what you've bought and buy a at least 400W PSU with 20 amps in the +12V rail and plug it into your computer. If it solves you problems, everything fine, if it doesn't you can always return it.
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Posted 10 November 2005 - 09:50 PM

That's the thing... I didn't buy the computer from a store. I bought it from eBay. But I will take your advice and see if there is a 400 watt PSU with a 20 amp 12vdc line.

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:24 PM

Will this one work?

ATADC Powerking PSU

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 03:48 AM

I'm not sure, never had a Dell, but I think they sometimes use somekind of proprietary connectors.
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Posted 11 November 2005 - 08:14 AM

I don't have that kind of connector... It's a 20-pin ATX with the 4-pin 12vdc for the P4. I have no idea why they chose this, but they did.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 10:28 AM

That's one problem avoided. :thumbsup:

As for the PSU, I'd be highly suspicious on any PSU you can get for $15. My recommendation is to go for a quality brand, like Antec.
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