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#1 diggi

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 06:36 AM

Hi all,
I have an Old PC, specs P4 1.3, intel 850 chipset mobo,
640Mb RDRAM(to be upgraded to 1gb), 550w psu, nvidia 6200 128mb AGP, WinXP

I want to update the video card, should I go with an ATI 4650/4670 1GB ddr3 or
is the NVidia 6200 512ddr2 a better option? Any other options are welcome.
This is the last upgrade to this old workhorse

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:45 PM

That depends on what you are going to do, it would be silly to upgrade the old workhorse with a CPU bottleneck. If this isn't being used as a gaming PC, and I highly doubt it would be a pleasant experience it were, I would go for something inexpensive, like the SAPPHIRE 100288L Radeon HD 4650 1GB which runs faster than the GeForce 6200. BTW, don't let the rebate on that card fool you into thinking it will only be $59, it expires Sep. 3.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 11:18 AM

So would this card work for my system? HIS IceQ Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814161337
Yes it will see some light gaming duty, Halo, Halo2, Lock On Modern Air Combat, Xplane and I plan on picking up Crysis and MS Flight

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 11:18 PM

You could, but there is no way a Pentium 4 1.3 GHz. CPU with 1GB of RAM will be able to play some of those games and if it could, it would be like a slide show. Modern games, 2007-ish or so, really need a much better system. Frankly, if you are going to be gaming with newer titles, a new PC is needed.

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 10:21 AM

OK thanks for the feedback

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 11:44 AM

.............and I plan on picking up Crysis and MS Flight


You don't have the CPU, or enough RAM for those games.

Ditto, you will need a completely new build for any modern game.

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 12:16 PM

.............and I plan on picking up Crysis and MS Flight


You don't have the CPU, or enough RAM for those games.

Ditto, you will need a completely new build for any modern game.

Ok, New Pc it is then

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 12:34 PM

I'm looking at either the i7 930 or the 1060t as the processor for my next build, which one is better able to handle rendering or multi threaded apps
I'm leaning heavily towards the i7 coupled with an X58 mobo, since it allows either CF or Sli, also would the onboard sound be better than my Turtle Beach montego sound card?

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 05:19 PM

I'm looking at either the i7 930 or the 1060t as the processor for my next build, which one is better able to handle rendering or multi threaded apps
I'm leaning heavily towards the i7 coupled with an X58 mobo, since it allows either CF or Sli, also would the onboard sound be better than my Turtle Beach montego sound card?

onboard audio solutions usually use codecs instead of a dedicated audio chip. this means that the cpu will have to take a few more cycles out to process the audio, which may slow down your computer.

dedicated video and sometimes audio is a must for gaming these days.

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:03 PM

You will pay more for an X58 motherboard and the socket used with the i7 930 will be obsolete next year and isn't backwards compatible with the upcoming socket LGA 2011. The Phenom II X6 CPU's are far better at rendering than the i7 930 in cases where actual cores are used. Don't worry too much about Crossfire or SLI, you should only use them with higher-end graphics cards. I use SLI and there are instances when SLI with two GeForce 9800 GTX's can be a hinderance. In terms of raw computational power, only the very high end single GPU's of the current generation can match the power of my SLI setup, however, one very high-end graphics card with 1GB or more of memory will be better in games that don't scale well under SLI. In regards to on-board audio, there is often an audio chip on the motherboard but many of the higher functions are controlled through audio drivers or codecs. Unless you are running quality audio equipment, on-board audio should be more than sufficient. I currently use an Asus Xonar D2X audio card becuase of my $300 headphones, which do sound better with that card especially when I use a lossless codec.

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:37 AM

I'm looking at either the i7 930 or the 1060t as the processor for my next build, which one is better able to handle rendering or multi threaded apps
I'm leaning heavily towards the i7 coupled with an X58 mobo, since it allows either CF or Sli, also would the onboard sound be better than my Turtle Beach montego sound card?

onboard audio solutions usually use codecs instead of a dedicated audio chip. this means that the cpu will have to take a few more cycles out to process the audio, which may slow down your computer.

dedicated video and sometimes audio is a must for gaming these days.


Oh I see i did not know that

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:56 AM

You will pay more for an X58 motherboard and the socket used with the i7 930 will be obsolete next year and isn't backwards compatible with the upcoming socket LGA 2011. The Phenom II X6 CPU's are far better at rendering than the i7 930 in cases where actual cores are used. Don't worry too much about Crossfire or SLI, you should only use them with higher-end graphics cards. I use SLI and there are instances when SLI with two GeForce 9800 GTX's can be a hinderance. In terms of raw computational power, only the very high end single GPU's of the current generation can match the power of my SLI setup, however, one very high-end graphics card with 1GB or more of memory will be better in games that don't scale well under SLI. In regards to on-board audio, there is often an audio chip on the motherboard but many of the higher functions are controlled through audio drivers or codecs. Unless you are running quality audio equipment, on-board audio should be more than sufficient. I currently use an Asus Xonar D2X audio card becuase of my $300 headphones, which do sound better with that card especially when I use a lossless codec.


I have an Altec lansing 5.1 THX certified( I think) made for Dell (AD 995? model) that I'll be using.
On second thoughts I 'm looking at the i7 875k with a ASUS P7F7-E WS SuperComputer LGA 1156 Intel 3450 w/ NVIDIA NF200 mobo as my first option, All the reviews showed great performance figures for this CPU even better than the 930.
Second choice would be the Phenom II X6 with an 890FX mobo
Third choice would be a Phenom II X4 with either the 890FX or 785G mobo

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 02:05 AM

The acual amount of difference depends largely on the application being used and whether or not it can use all six cores. For instance, with the x.264 encoder, the Phenom II X6 1090T is second only to Intel's six core CPU, this is because the application can use all six cores. Handbrake, Cenebench 10, and POV Ray are also similar in this regard. The Phenom II X6's advantage extends to those applications that can use all of the physical cores, otherwise, the six-core CPU will function similarly to the Phenom II X4 955. Games or applications that do not use all six cores but love HyperThreading will view the 1090T as a 955 and perform appropriately. If you are using high-end audio equipment, you may want a good audio card, but remember, if your audio isn't encoded in a Lossless or other very high quality format, you may still not be able to tell the difference between a dedicated card and on-board audio.

Further Reading
NeoSeeker - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Review
Guru3D - Phenom II X6 1055T and 1090T review
PC Perspective - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 6-core Thuban Processor Review

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:19 AM

I've decided on this setup for a budget build
Asrock 880gx extreme 3 Mobo
Athlon X3 445 rana
but I'm still trying to figure what memory will work with the mobo these are what I'm looking at right now I'm leaning towards 4gb of 1066 CL7 but 1600 cl8 is also an option as well as 2gb since I'll be running XP for a lil while

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231310&nm_mc=AFC-Bleeping&cm_mmc=AFC-Bleeping-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 1333(PC3 10666)F3-10666CL9S-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 G.SKILL(2 x 2GB)DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144262 GeIL (2 x 2GB)DDR3 1066 GV34GB1066C7DC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134793 Kingston ValueRAM(2 x 1GB)DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500)KVR1066D3K2/2GR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211410 A-DATA Gaming Series DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666)AX3U1333GB2G8-2G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190 G.SKILL(2 x 2GB)DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180 G.SKILL(2 x 2GB)DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145299 CORSAIR XMS(2 x 2GB)DDR3 1333 CMX4GX3M2A1333C8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231307 G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500)F3-8500CL7S-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231268
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231185 G.SKILL (2 x 1GB)DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)F3-12800CL9D-2GBNQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104138 Kingston HyperX (2 x 1GB)DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)KHX1600C9D3K2/2G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144383 GeIL Black Dragon(2 x 2GB)DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500)GB34GB1066C7DC

Edited by diggi, 31 October 2010 - 01:31 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2010 - 03:20 AM

Those all look like good memory choices, Just to give you another option PatriotMemory has always performed flawlessly for me and I use it in all my builds, from basic run of the line equipment all the way up to the high performance stuff.

Also, I know you said you were thinking about staying with XP, but some things to keep in mind with even with XP-2 gigs of ram may do it if all your doing is surfing the web and watching movies, maybe some of the lower end games like microsoft flight simulator, but if your wanting to do any performance gaming like Crysis, you really really need 4 gigs of ram at least, and I would advise going with that, even if your current copy of XP is 32 bit and wont support it all, because if and when you do upgrade to 7 64 bit it will recognize that much and youll be all the better, and save yourself the money and time later on. And If your looking at games like crysis on up, you will most likely want to upgrade to windows 7 at some bit (preferably the 64 bit version) because XP does not support directX 10 or 11, which is pretty much the new standard for games, most new games will run on directX9, but the graphical difference is night and day, you would be far happier with 7.

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