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Partition for only OS worth it?


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#1 cybergrrl

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 05:54 PM

I just finished building a PC with 2 hard drives - one is 250GB, the other 500GB
Right now, the 250GB drive has a primary partition of 30GB and the rest is an extended partition
The 500GB drive has a primary partition of 365GB and the rest is unallocated.

My plan was to use the 250GB drive with the OS (XP) on a partition by itself (the 30GB one) and programs in a partition by themselves (the rest of the drive) but sometimes when installing a program, it doesn't give me the option to identify where I want it installed and it defaults to the OS partition. I wanted to keep the OS separate so when I upgrade in the future, I don't have to reinstall all my programs. However, it seems to be a difficult if not impossible task to keep them separated.

Should I just go ahead and put the OS and programs on the same partition?

The other drive would be partitioned for data, backups and/or images, and page file. (hmmm, maybe I should put the backups on that first drive)

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:01 PM

Hello...
I think 250 GB for your OS and installed program and 500GB only for your data will good idea :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:09 PM

A 30GB partition should be more than larege enough for Windows, updates, and programs installed.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:59 PM

Louis (heh, that's my middle name), Windows 7 x64 requires 20GB for installation alone. Add some games in there and that's very limiting. :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:08 PM

if you can install the games on another partition, 30 gigs is more then enough. However, like stated, not all games (though most do) allow you to choose destination path. Using one small partition for the OS is actually a pretty common practice, though I think I would probably make the base partition somewhere between 50-75 gigs just to be on the safe side, for those few games and programs that wont install to another partition for whatever reason

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:18 PM

(In response to JonM)

Yes, I know that...I have Win 7 64-bit on my laptop. My Win 7 partitions are 50GB.

<<My plan was to use the 250GB drive with the OS (XP)...>>>

Louis

Edited by hamluis, 07 August 2010 - 08:19 PM.


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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:44 PM

My fault then, Windows XP is a lot smaller of an install. :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:06 PM

250 GB for windows, installed program and GAMES is good enough...not the best but good enough...
5 GB for windows...
20 GB for installed program...
150 GB for games :thumbsup:
rest of free spase....for games update / patch :flowers:
but this only if you play games...if not ignored this...

for the future...the idea to use different hardrive for program and data is good idea if you need to learning about something on computer...maybe video editing, data recovery, audio, etc...
and please remember...there will an update of your program...and its mean an extra space must give to that update...so why you bother thinking about too large free space...that large free space will be a tiny free space...

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 12:27 AM

Thanks for all the helpful replies. Knowing the amount of space needed for XP AND Windows 7 is helpful too because it won't be long before I'll want to upgrade to Win7 so I'll want the partition large enough for that eventually.

This is my business computer so no (serious) games :thumbsup: .

Oh, I forgot, if I put whatever programs I can into another partition, does that mean I'll have a program files directory on both partitions (one on the OS partition for those that automatically install to that partition and one on the extended partition for those I can manually select a location for)?

Edited by cybergrrl, 08 August 2010 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:26 PM

FYI: If your OS partition fails or you re-install the OS you will still need to re-install the games. Why? Because when you install a program it writes values to the windows registry telling the computer where the files are that are needed to run the program when you re-install windows (unless you do a repair install) it erases the registry. You can keep your install shells and saved game files on a separate partition that way you can re-install the programs when windows is fixed.
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 04:37 PM

So you're saying, I'm going to have to re-install the programs anyway - from the download or disk or whatever - to get the registry updated from a crash or a new OS.

I was thinking if I had my programs elsewhere, when I wanted to move to Win7, all I'd have to do is install it on the OS partition and just pick up where I left off without more work. Not so, huh?

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 05:04 PM

So you're saying, I'm going to have to re-install the programs anyway - from the download or disk or whatever - to get the registry updated from a crash or a new OS.

I was thinking if I had my programs elsewhere, when I wanted to move to Win7, all I'd have to do is install it on the OS partition and just pick up where I left off without more work. Not so, huh?


Yes and no.
Some games/apps just update the registry when you execute, so they do not need to be reinstalled.
Sometimes they require a fresh install.

I would definately recommend a separate partition for your os in any case, because if nothing else, it saves you the trouble of backing up your data, since you just keep it on a separate partition. That's obviously on a single drive setup.
Furthermore I would recommend a format with a clean install of your os and then it's nice to just have to do that on a small drive.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:54 PM

Basically...programs do not work without the registry.

The registry is part of Windows.

If you have to reinstall Windows and are unable to reinstall those same registry values...your programs on a separate partition will not work and you will have to reinstall them in order for them to function.

I don't know anything about games.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:11 PM

Basically...programs do not work without the registry.

The registry is part of Windows.

If you have to reinstall Windows and are unable to reinstall those same registry values...your programs on a separate partition will not work and you will have to reinstall them in order for them to function.

I don't know anything about games.

Louis

Is it because I'm danish, that I'm not taken seriously?
Trust me I've done it a million times, those entries will often be imported upon execution of both games as well as other software and so no a reinstall might not be nessasary.
You are right off course the registry is gone. That's another issue entirely.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:15 PM

<<Is it because I'm danish, that I'm not taken seriously?>>

LOL...I think you are being taken seriously.

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