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#1 jon51

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:18 PM

I am in desperate need of a computer upgrade/replacement. I could cannibalize a few things from my old computer but I would like to keep it functional so I decided to go with a whole new machine. Some people talked me out of going i7 since I am a casual gamer. I would be attaching a 19" monitor occasionally for multitasking.

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
SAMSUNG 2494SW Glossy Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
Logitech G15 2-Tone USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard
Logitech MX 518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Gaming Mouse
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop
MSI P55A-G55 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS

Tom's Hardware gave a good review for gaming of the i5-750 so I feel safe with that. The motherboard looks decent for the price ($104 if they honor the rebate) and it runs PCIe x8/x8 since the GTX 460 scales well in SLI if I need an upgrade. I has only one review so that is the only thing making me nervous.
I might try to pick up the monitor from a store like best buy/frys since returning monitors can be a hassle.

All in all with tax and shipping included is $1488.

Edit: -$80 if rebates are honored.

Edited by jon51, 06 August 2010 - 10:46 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:55 PM

Don't forget, you also need Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Personally, I would go for the AMD Phenom II X4 965 as it and the i5 750 are neck-and-neck at the resoluation I game at (1920 x 1200) with a slightly lower price. But, if you're set on an Nvidia SLI system, Intel platforms have a larger number of SLI-capable boards to choose from. The GeForce GTX 260 is a great card and the only Radeon card that passes it is the more expensive 5850. I've bought monitors from Newegg before and they are very easy to deal wish, especially if you have issues. However, there is always a random chance some will go wrong, but not wrong enough to warrant an RMA. If I were buying a new monitor, I would get the ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23" since it is less expensive, due to the loss of a single inch, but also has the better LED backlight, HDMI, and free shipping.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:05 PM

Yeah I'm not completely set on that specific monitor. I just put it into my cart for pricing. Monitors are the hardest thing to shop for.
With regards to the AMD/Intel thing, I just had a harder time finding boards with the configurations I wanted. I didn't like the price ranges on ATI's cards at the moment.

Is it just me or are AMD's motherboards more confusing to search through?
How does that motherboard look to you?

edit: also I know you have to sift though reviews on newegg carefully but it just seems the 5830 reviews to be very mixed compared to the GTX460's...

Edited by jon51, 06 August 2010 - 11:10 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:24 PM

I think what you have picked out is perfect. MSI is a great company. I have owned AMD based MSI motherboards in the past and they were great. I have an MSI Radeon HD 5850 in my rig now. The MSI P55A-G55 has a ton of USB ports and even a pair of USB 3.0 ports, which is a nice addition without making the board expensive. The CPU socket area is clean with no worries about installing massive sized heatsinks. All solid caps on the board adds to reliability, but that is pretty much standard these days.

That's a bit overkill on the PSU. I have a HX650 and it comes with 4 pairs of 8-pin PCIe connectors. Are you sure you need 750W capability? Stick with Corsair though! Great brand!

One the case, I'd seriously look at the Antec 300 if I were you. I have the Antec 900 myself for my primary rig and got an Antec 300 for my spare Linux rig. I like the Antec 300 much better. It's easier to work with in regards to cases. The thumb screws for the hard drives are nice and they install easily through the front of the case. I find it to be a real pain to install hard drives in the Antec 900. You have to remove the cage and then use a magnetic screwdriver to put the screws in. It is just a pain. The 300 also has a nice area to hide all the wires, where the 900 does not.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:36 PM

The PSU may be overkill a bit but it was modular (I just like that option for some reason :thumbsup: ). Should be concerned about powering 2 460's in the future will a lower PSU?

The case I picked because it was a decent price and looked like a case with nice airflow. As long as my hard drive doesn't fail I can't imagine worrying about changing things out too often so that is not a huge concern.

I have heard mixed opinions on MSI in the past but ASUS has had its issues too and I have been pretty partial to them for quite a few years. ASUS has weird configurations for their SLI also... ASUS boards with SLI config in the same price range as the MSI are running the second PCIe slot at x4 which I was told to steer clear of.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:46 PM

Good point about 2 GTX 460's but that would require SLI capability. The P55 chipset doesn't do SLI. The HX650 is modular as well, the entire HX series is. :thumbsup:

The 900 and 300 are practically alike in cooling. Both have 120mm fans in the front, a 120mm fan in the back and a fan at the top. I found the 140mm fan on the 300 to be quieter and moved more air on the lowest fan speed setting. The 200mm fan just doesn't move much air on low. If you get the 900 you will see what I mean about the hard drive installation.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:48 PM

Well crap....I didn't even see that it only supports Crossfire. I fail lol

Back to the drawing board :thumbsup:

edit: ASUS Maximus III GENE LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Features
Intel LGA1156 Core i7 and Intel Core i5 Processors
Intel P55 Express chipset / DDR3 2133(O.C.)
ROG Connect
GameFirst
MemPerfect
SupremeFX X-Fi built-in
Supports NVIDIA Quad-GPU SLI Technology / ATI Quad-GPU CrossFireX Technology

So I guess it depends on brands whether the P55 supports SLI?

Lacking SATA 6GB/sec but who cares. I probably wouldn't even notice.

Edited by jon51, 07 August 2010 - 12:00 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:09 AM

No, it's a licensing thing with nVIDIA.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:16 AM

Ok well that is quite annoying. I hate computer manufacturers sometimes.

Ill go with the

ASUS Maximus III GENE LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
and switch to:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

Back to ASUS I guess LOL

Thank you very much for pointing that out. If it wasn't for you I may have clicked "checkout" and been in quite a bind :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:18 AM

Glad I could help. :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:22 AM

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 01:47 AM

Some days you can just loathe technology companies. As tech journalist Becky Worley once put it, "Technology companies are like b*tchy little schoolgirls dealing with each other." Intel has Nvidia's SLI roped into their high-end chipsets along with AMD's Crossfire, up to certain levels. This means you don't have to buy an nForce chipset equipped motherboard to get basic SLI or Crossfire if you just get a certain chipset. However, on the AMD side of things, you either have AMD chipsets which only do Crossfire, or the shoddy nForce chipsets which only do SLI - and there are few AM3 SLI capable motherboards around as a result.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 11:22 AM

Yeah true. I guess competing companies is a good thing in a way, otherwise you would be stuck with whatever crap was put out and wouldn't have any choice in the matter.




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