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#1 jibberishballr

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 09:58 PM

expensive, when they run the same specs as a normal laptop? Can you no run leopard OS on a non-mac laptop??? If you can why wouldn't people just buy a cheaper laptop, buy leopard os cd, install it, and be done with it? Is this possible? I feel like if i buy a mac it would be for the os? I dont want to run mac os through an emulator or anything, i just want to buy the os cd and install it on a $5-600 laptop. IS this possible?

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:23 PM

Simple answer is no. that is why they are so expensive plus as some call it you are paying for the coolness. :thumbsup:
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 01:57 AM

Google "OSx86" and hope you don't blow up your six hundred dollar laptop in the process.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:25 AM

expensive, when they run the same specs as a normal laptop? Can you no run leopard OS on a non-mac laptop??? If you can why wouldn't people just buy a cheaper laptop, buy leopard os cd, install it, and be done with it? Is this possible? I feel like if i buy a mac it would be for the os? I dont want to run mac os through an emulator or anything, i just want to buy the os cd and install it on a $5-600 laptop. IS this possible?


1. They are more expensive because they have an Apple logo on them and Steve Jobs brainwashes people into thinking that means a superior/lavish product.
2. Yes, you can but not legally and if you had Windows or Linux as an alternative why would you buy a separate OS X license?
3. Per #2, there are actually Linux distros that look almost exactly like OS X. They are free and work on any PC.

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 12:13 PM

Proprietary equipment!

Have you seen a Macbook Pro? They're absolutely gorgeous and the screens that Apple uses are phenomenal.

Honestly, they aren't that expensive. Go to Apple's website and price out a Mac Pro, they have a new model coming out later this year that starts at $5,000. Of course, that model also features 12-cores of pure processing power.

What I don't understand is why Dell charges so much for those Alienware laptops.
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Posted 05 August 2010 - 12:32 PM

I've seen laptops from PC OEMS that look better. The brushed aluminum look of the Dell Adamo is beautiful.

Not sure what you mean by Dell charging so much for Alienware laptops. The Alienware M11x is only $799.

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 08:32 PM

That is pricey, especially considering what they have in it. Its 800 bucks, and only has a core 2 duo (for the base package, which is $799) you can get a standard dell or HP with an i5 and a graphics card that performs perhaps a notch slower for about the same price. Your looking at closer to $1000 for an alienware with an i5, seriously alienware laptops are so overrated.

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:34 PM

It has a 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M and the Core 2 Duo is overclockable. Alienware is typical for gaming and that is a cheap gaming laptop. You go cheaper you generally get integrated Intel video.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 08:28 PM

hmmmm lets look at the HP HP Pavilion DV7-4060US AMD phenom triple core, 4 gigs of DDR3, dedicated ATI 5650 video card with 1 gig of GDDR3 memory. . .17 inch screen. . .fingerprint protection. . .500 gig hard drive. . .decent speakers. . .HDMI. . .1600 x 900 native resolution (higher on external monitor) for 10 dollars less then alienwares bottom of the line laptop with only a 11 inch screen. . .(after rebate, before its only 40 dollars higher) whats not to like? add into HPs fantastic customer service and warranty. . .not to advertise HP here, but just to use as an example-and if you want more of a "performance" package this ASUS matches that one pretty well, one model video card down, but with an i5. . .lots of options of why alienware is so overrated.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 09:20 PM

AMD is horrible on the mobile market, both in performance and for battery life. I wouldn't use that as an example. :thumbsup:

You are comparing a big laptop with a 17-inch screen to a more portable laptop with a 11-inch screen too. You pay more for going smaller, which I would prefer in a laptop.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 09:50 PM

Wait,, I have an hp pavilion dv8000 this is a 4 year old laptop it also has an AMD turion in it it is also a 17 inch lappy, I still have an hour worth of battery life still in it, it had about 3 hours when it was new, i love this thing and i bet that the patriot will come back about how he likes AMD as much as i do, also PowerPC is great as well but that is for another one of our topics. :thumbsup:
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:18 PM

I think for a gaming laptop at 11-inches that price is acceptable. I personally like the Dell Adamo Aspire which is 13-inches and the thinnest laptop ever made at $999. I think that's a steal for such a nice laptop.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:17 PM

I have an HP dv8000 myself, and when it was new it had a good 3 1/2 to 4 hour battery life with my AMD turion. Now its not so great but its rather old and I keep it plugged in to much. I have also sold many HP laptops with AMD processors, all sporting good battery life. One can make the claim AMD chips are bad for battery, but thats pure rubbish, its more the type of battery and how well its kept.

As far as screen size, Im sorry, if Im going to be gaming, I want a big screen. It is really really hard to see little man on the other side of the map when your sniping on a 11 inch screen. my 17 inch on my current laptop is to small for my needs, thats why I dont buy laptops to game, Im willin to bet my current desktop will outperform many of those alienware laptops in a heartbeat, with a 22 inch LCD to boot, and give me much more enjoyable gameplay-laptops are for surfin the web when on the road. Ya, you can poor a lot of money into a fancy alienware laptop, but its more for bragging rights, as laptops become obsolete and slow far before desktops do simply because they cant put the high end stuff in there, and you cant upgrade them. Like my desktop, hmmm not enough memory? throw more in. Need more CPU power? upgrade. Laptop? throw the whole thing out and buy a new one. . .practically. You can upgrade some components, but its really a waste of money and effort I think to have a "gaming" laptop, when the reality is what your paying for is the name, not the performance, Id just as soon save myself the money, buy a good HP or Toshiba (or ASUS) laptop for less, and spend my money into a desktop that will hold its value a little longer.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 08:46 PM

Why are they more expensive? Hype! If you go to a Mac event and watch the little dribbles that follow around Steve Jobs as if he's going to crap out a golden egg, it's pathetic. Apple caters to the upper-middle class to rich crowd as well as the yuppiefestivites.
If they actually came out with a solid product at a decent price i'd give them credit but what they offer is becoming more and more like a PC clone and even their OS is becoming Windows which Jobs will still not admit. Sad.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

And I'm sorry but those DV brand laptops that were being touted from HP are short term junk. 1.5 - 2 yrs after this post I have worked on more than a few of these and they're either falling apart or burning up internally. Completely inadequate cooling, batteries that are hotter than hot and CPUs/GPU's that are cooking internally like overpriced biscuits as well as plastic parts that have to be coddled. Performance wise they were a little faster than an avg PC laptop but at a cost. The DV6000, DV7000 and DV8000 series are dying at a pretty fast pace where as the DV9000 series seems to be lasting a little longer but still has the same issues.
The 6000 series is complete garbage. Just take a look on Ebay of how many are not working, being sold "as is", and are "for parts only" in general.

While there are always exceptions to the rule, getting what you paid for in the laptop market still seems to hold true.




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