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Do I need more protection?


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#1 blank.black

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:23 AM

Hi,

I have a TOSHIBA laptop with Windows 7 32bit

I am using ESET NOD32 Antivirus and the Windows Firewall that came with the laptop.
Also, I have Windows Defender that came with the laptop as well.

Would I need anything else to keep my computer safe from online threats?

I was thinking of downloading this program called Spybot Search & Destroy which claims to offer protection from Spyware but I am not so sure if its needed or not.

Please advise.

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#2 quietman7

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:47 AM

mvps.org is no longer recommending Spybot S&D or Ad-Aware due to poor testing results. See here - (scroll down and read under Freeware Antispyware Products)

Further, most people don't understand Spybot's TeaTimer or how to use it and that feature can cause more problems than it's worth. TeaTimer monitors changes to certain critical keys in Windows registry but does not indicate if the change is normal or a modification made by a malware infection. The user must have an understanding of the registry and how TeaTimer works in order to make informed decisions to allow or deny the detected changes. Additionally, TeaTimer may conflict with other security tools which do a much better job of protecting your computer and even prevent disinfection of malware by those tools.

More effective alternatives are Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and SUPERAntiSpyware Free.Choosing a security toolkit with anti-virus, firewall and anti-malware programs is a matter of personal preference, your technical ability and experience, features offered, the amount of resources utilized, how it may affect system performance and what will work best for your system. A particular combination that works well for one person may not work as well for another. There is no universal "one size fits all" solution that works for everyone. You may need to experiment and find what is most suitable for your needs. Another factor to consider is whether you want to use paid for products or free alternatives.

No single product is 100% foolproof and can prevent, detect and remove all threats at any given time. The security community is in a constant state of change as new infections appear. Each vendor has its own definition of what constitutes malware and scanning your computer using different criteria will yield different results. The fact that each program has its own definition files means that some malware may be picked up by one that could be missed by another. Thus, a multi-layered defense using several anti-spyware products (including an effective firewall) to supplement your anti-virus combined with common sense and safe surfing habits provides the most complete protection.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 12:37 PM

I'll give you something that I use. Download Win Patrol from www.winpatrol.com. It is a great edition to what you already have, and it will help with not only malware-related issues, but also it will help with the cleanliness of your hard drive. It's most notable features are it's startup monitor, file extension monitor, hosts file monitor, and if you choose to upgrade to the plus version for only I think it's 28 bucks (somebody can correct me if I'm wrong), you get custom registry monitoring. The cool thing about that is that the developer is collecting scripts so that you don't have to manually add the keys unless you are comfortable doing so. If you ever get a question from the program asking if you want to allow or deny a startup, look really closely at the name, and then check the information that Win Patrol presents to you. if you did not download or start the program, then chances are, it's something trying to sneak past you. It happened to me at college one time. The program I was being asked about had the strangest name. It in fact looked like a malformed hash checksum rather than a suitable program name. I denied it immediately. That's how you work it. Just a piece of advice for you. Hope it works out.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:29 PM

It will depend where you go on the net. If you choose to surf in darker waters you will be infected.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:48 PM

Thank you for your advice guys.

I would like to ask you this:

When I do decide to go with one or more of the programs you guys mentioned above, would those new programs affect what I already have installed?

Would I need to uninstall any existing software in order to avoid any future problems?

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:51 PM

As a general rule, using more than one anti-spyware program like Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, SuperAntispyware, Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware, etc will not conflict with each other or your anti-virus if using only one of them for real time protection and others as stand-alone scanners. In fact, doing so increases your protection coverage without causing the same kind of conflicts or affecting the stability of your system that can occur when using more than one anti-virus. The overlap of protection from using different signature databases will aid in detection and removal of more threats when scanning your system for malware. However, if using all their real-time resident shields (TeaTimer, Ad-Watch, MBAM Protection Module, Spyware Terminator Shields, etc) together at the same time, there can be conflicts when each application tries to compete for resources and exclusive rights to perform an action. Additionally, competing tools may even provide redundant alerts which can be annoying and/or confusing.

Keep in mind that you can overkill a system with resource heavy security programs that will slow down performance. Sometimes you just have to experiment to get the right combination for your particular system.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:04 PM

Thank you quietman7. Appreciate the help :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:09 PM

If you feel more comfy keeping your a/v just add sandboxie and the world will be right again.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:12 PM

Thank you the dummy. I will keep that in mind :thumbsup:


EDIT: had to edit the user's name. didn't sound right.

Edited by blank.black, 22 July 2010 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:34 PM

[BUMP to avoid redundancy]

hi, i'd like to get the most comprehensive protection possible without running into conflicts on my XP sp3 system.

right now (and for quite a while) i use -

AVG
Spybot with Teatimer
Ad-Aware
Winpatrol
Spyware Blaster
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (occasional scanning)

i've read that Teatimer can conflict with Winpatrol, so i'd just like to hear your comments.

thanks and let me know if you need me to provide program versions etc.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:31 PM

MSE
MALWAREBYTES on demand only
SUPERANTISPYWARE on demand only
HITMAN on demand only
Use a LUA account for surfing
SANDBOXIE free




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