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Interested in building a new computer (never attempted this before)


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#1 SecurityAlert

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 02:05 PM

My old hard drive is about to die (loud clicking noises) and just about everything on the computer is several years old and sucks, so I want to build a new computer from scratch.

I'm essentially looking to build a PC for mostly gaming, but internet browsing as well and I'm not into graphic intensive games like Crysis or Oblivion. I have a $600 budget to work with here too. (I want to buy Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate with the PC, so I'm not exactly sure how that would fit into the budget, but if it doesn't that's fine. I'm not really concerned about that.)

I read the "what you need to build a PC" thread at the top of these forums but I'm absolutely clueless as to what parts would be good for me.

PS: I live in Canada so sites like newegg.com are not an option for me (newegg.ca works though)

PSS: Are there any other materials I should know about that I need to get, or will everything I need come with the parts? (Eg: screwdriver, paste, etc)

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:26 PM

$600 is going to be tough for a gaming build. Why not Windows 7 Home premium?

Case: Rosewill R220-P-BK $29.99
CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz $59.00
Motherboard: ASRock M3A770DE $64.99
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) $96.99
HDD: Western Digital AV-GP WD5000AVDS $54.99
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX $51.99 before rebate
DVD: Samsung 24x DVD Burner $23.99
Video: POWERCOLOR Radeon HD 5670 $93.49 before rebate
Front fan: APEVIA CF12S-BK $4.99
OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit $147.99

The above is basically the bare-bones for a gaming build, and it still goes over your budget. You will also need a phillips-head screwdriver which I don't think is included with anything. Thermal paste is pre-applied to the stock CPU cooler.

Edited by RainbowSix, 04 July 2010 - 03:28 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 03:50 PM

I already have a screwdriver but I was just worried about if I would need a specific one, and I don't really have paste so I was just wondering.

Windows 7 home premium works too, but I'm not too too concerned with getting it (Windows 7 in general). I was just trying to see if it was possible to fit it into my budget.


Edit: Edited to remove unnecessary quote. ~ tg

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

To ammend what RainbowSix has. As you are a home user, you do not need Windows 7 Professional unless you are performing business tasks. Here is an article which explains the differences between the versions. You can get Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (Found at TigerDirect.ca) for less. You will need Windows Vista or Windows 7 to use DirectX 11 which your graphics card comes with.

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 11:22 PM

The main reason why I wanted to use Professional was because of the XP mode. I do tend to work with a lot of programs that were designed to work with XP, but after reading around and finding out that windows 7 doesn't generally have too much trouble with XP programs I can see now that buying Home Premium would make more sense.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:51 PM

The XP is very helpful with those older programs. Keep in mind that it runs as a virtualized copy of XP so performance isn't spectacular, thus it isn't designed for games which shouldn't be a problem for you.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:05 PM

Someone told me that 400W of power won't be enough to support the system selected by RainbowSix (they suggested a 750W Corsair instead). Any comments on that?

PS: I've decided that I will buy windows 7 home premium and I've also decided to switch out the motherboard that RainBow six chose for this this, mostly due to a friend's suggestion. He recommended the ASUS mobo instead, saying that while ASROCK might suffice, ASUS just makes better quality boards. (and this one ends up being only around $3 more expensive)

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:17 PM

The newegg PSU calculator says 302W recommended.
http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html

The most demanding part of any computer is the video card, but the official requirements for the Radeon HD 5670 says it only requires 400W total system power.

PS: Don't expect amazing performance for that video card. It will do the job well, but don't expect to be able to play Crysis on high.
See here

EDIT:
That motherboard only supports DDR2 memory. Make sure to change the memory on your wish list to DDR2, or change the motherboard to a DDR3-supported one.

Edited by RainbowSix, 07 July 2010 - 04:30 PM.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:30 PM

Thanks for the input RainbowSix. Another question. Is that front fan you suggested I buy necessary, or do you recommend it so that I can keep the system cool?

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:34 PM

I think it's necessary. Fans which are included with the case are usually low-flow and low-noise. If anything, I would recommend you buy two and replace the included fan with one.
On my system (with 3 fans), I was having cooling problems until I replaced the stock fan with a better fan.

Also, see my edit above.

Edited by RainbowSix, 07 July 2010 - 04:35 PM.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:40 PM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?...N82E16820220227

That'll be the new RAM I choose. It's a bit cheaper and it's DDR2

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 04:46 PM

I found a better motherboard deal. It's DDR3, full ATX, has better reviews, and is $5 cheaper after rebate.
Here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?...N82E16813131603
[ Antec 1200 v3 | Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 rev. 3.1 | AMD Phenom II x6 1090T (overclocked to 4GHz) | Corsair XMS3 4x4GB DDR3 1600 | COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600W & Visiontek Juice Box 450W | SAMSUNG 470 Series 64GB SSD | WD Caviar Black 640GB & Samsung Spinpoint 2TB HDD | 2x XFX Radeon HD 5770 in Crossfire | SAMSUNG 22X DVD±RW | Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit]

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