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#1 455826

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 05:31 PM

Hi,

I own a amd 2.8 GHZ dual core computer with 4 gig RAM and a 1 GB Geforce 9500 videocard. My computer runs on windows 7 32 bit and I mostly use it to record audio (www.highuponawire.com) and it works perfectly. The only thing is, I can't play games.

Once I have started a game like the sims 3 or just cause 2, I can play it for 10 minutes and then it automaticly goes to power saving mode.
Result> black screen, and I have to manually restart the computer.

It only happens to games. Other programs work fine. I tried switching off powersaving in control panel/power options/change plan settings, I tried to run the games windowed, but that doesn't solve the problem.

I hope someone can help.

Thanks in advance,
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 07:55 PM

Hi,

How many watts is your PSU? also download speedfan and see what your temps are and post the temps.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 03:39 AM

Hi, thanks for your reply.

I ran speedfan 4.40 and my temps are
GPU 80C
System -48C
CPU 21C
AUX-4C
Cire 28 C

When I start a game CPU is 93C and CPU is 24C

My psu is an LC Power LC6550GP 550WATTS

I hope you know enough.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:06 AM

Just to be sure, I watched speedfan a little more.

Like I said, a game can last for 10 minutes before it goes to power saving mode.
In those 10 minutes the GPU goes to almost 110 C! When I do nothing it's 88 C. And it has a fire icon next to it.
(in my previous reply it was 80, but maybe that's because I had my computercase open to see what kind of cpu I had)
System, CPU, AUX are good I suppose, because they don't change alot. But in those 10 minutes the game runs, the core also went up to 45C.

So maybe it's something about the GPU, which is my graphic card?

What do you think?

I also wanted to say that the computer is 1,5 years old, it always ran fine on XP, I never had problems with games or anything. But I recently upgraded it to windows 7 pro, and since then I can't play games anymore. Even the games that I played on XP.

I hope you can help me.

Sander

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 07:10 PM

It might be overheating your GPU try cleaning the dust accumulate inside the case and place the case in well vented area.

Use compress air to clean the inside the case. See if that helps

When I start a game CPU is 93C and CPU is 24C
93C=199.4F that way to hot
24C=75.2F Normal
GPU
80C=176F Hot
110C =210F very hot for GPU

The reason why its going to power saving mode is it protecting itself from overheating and CPUs and GPUs are design by nature to shut down if not enough air is flowing in the case. If its keeps overheating than It will lead to Frying of the components. Not trying to make you afraid but realistic in what might happen

Please try to clean by blowing the dust out and make sure that air isnt blocking the vents when you have done that run speed fan again and post the results if it was just dust than you will see it gone down dramatically

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 03:55 AM

Thanks for your reply. Last night I opened the case and I put a big ventilator on it.
It made the GPU a lot cooler and I could actually play a game. So exactly....it's the ventilator.

I will clean it today or tommorow. And after that,....is it a good idea to buy a new graphic card?

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 06:30 AM

Does the graphics card have a fan on it? If not I can recomend some Stand alone units that can act as it's fan.
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:21 AM

I think I have this one http://www.itcapital.hu/kepek/termekek/MI-V157-041R_x.jpg
so it has a fan I guess.

But it's turned upside down with the fan faced down, and there's another card (I think it's the sound card) placed right under the fan of the 9500gt.

So...is maybe that the problem and did the computerstore a !bleep! job?
Or...just clean the fan.
Or clean AND give it more space.

thanks for your support

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 01:55 PM

is your computer an OEM or a custom? I would see if there is another card slot to move the sound card to that is either above the graphics card or lower under the card. what are your complete system specs?
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 02:11 PM

thanks for you reply

it is custom build (it's called YS starter) by a computerstore in the neighborhood
when I look inside the computercase, I don't think there is much more room

my complete computerspecs are:

-AMD athlon X2 7850 (boxed OPGA KUMA black edition)
-Samsung HD502HI 500 GB 16 mb
-ECS AM2 MCP78M-M3, GLan, DVI-D, PCIX, 8.1 Sound (onboard I guess? I don't use it, I use an external sound card), NV raid, 4 slots memory
-Nvidia Geforce 8200, VGA, DVI (onboard, I don't use it)
-2x DDR2 2048mb 800Mhz
-LC Power LC6550GP 550W PSU 2.0
-MSI N9500GT-OC 1024mb (dvi, hdmi)

and I have an dvd player, windows 7 pro and 2 screens.

and on the bill, it said it had a quiet system chassis fan 12 cm

If i can't move it around, is it possible to buy an other budget graphic card with better ventilation or something?
And does someone know what would be a good option (80 euro's max)?

thnx so far.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 07:16 PM

can you provide photos of the inside of the case to provide us some insight of your current seating of components. What were the temps of that pc when you place the ventilator.

This is your motherboard http://verba.ru/price/verba_techinfo2/59137.jpg according to this It seems like you have no room but we could determine that with photos

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 03:04 AM

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I hope you can see the graphics card and the card thats under it...I don't know what kind of card that is... I don't think I use it because nothing is plugged in on the back of the computer.

<edit>Is it a firewire card or something? Because I only use that for video transportation once in a while.
So if it's a firewire card, is there an other spot or a different way to have firewire? Concluding that this card is the problem of my overheated Geforce Card.<edit>

When I ran a game w/ speedfan and a ventilator pointed towards the computer the temperature of the GPU was still around 80C, but not 110C as I mentioned before.

Hope you can help me!

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 06:26 AM

I would remove the card under the graphics. That is the only way to stop it from over heating.
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:37 AM

I concur with computerxpds,

Removing the card will definitely help in your case. With the picture i can tell that the air flow is blocking.

When you have two components back to back (like the computer store has it) it can generate so much heat it can be harmful to your system.

Now if your motherboard was bigger than you can move to that component to another slot

For example
Component 1
Empty space
Component 2

but with that current configuration they're a no place to put it.

<edit>Is it a firewire card or something? Because I only use that for video transportation once in a while.
So if it's a firewire card, is there an other spot or a different way to have firewire? Concluding that this card is the problem of my overheated Geforce Card.<edit>

My uncle says its a Tv tuner but he wasn't sure about it.

If its a fire wire card you can buy a usb to fire wire and pug it in to a usb port

Yes I would agree with that statement Try to remove that card and see if it help it and post another speed fan results on the removal of the card for a base line.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 06:32 PM

thanks for your reply!

1st: it was a fire wire card, I removed it, I will look for an alternative...otherwise I will just plug it in again when needed.
2nd: I tested a game with speedfan on and the GPU is now 53C. A major decrease...But is it still to hot? When I do nothing it's 40C.

I also wanted to know if running win7 will improve when I upgrade my GPU from a 9500 GT to a newer model?
Will that make thing even cooler and faster?

Thank you guys so much for your help. It really made me understand it!




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