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#1 myosin

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:10 PM

My 3.5 year old gaming rig died a hard miserable death. I had just upgraded the video card and switched to 64 bit Win 7 about 6 months ago. So already have an excellent Video card and Win 7 64 bit.

The video card I have is XFX HD-585A-ZNBC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB Black Edition 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card.

I am going to keep my hard drives and optical drives. I was hoping to get a year or two out of the older rig by updating. BUT, since it died gives me a reason to do a little upgrading sooner. I am going to do the build in less than two weeks. Next year I’ll probably throw in another Radeon 5850 just because I’ve never had two video cards. And Next year I am going to get a 3 monitor set up.

I am using new egg for parts. This is what I am thinking about getting.

CASE:

Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811139001

CPU COOLER:

CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835181010

POWER SUPPLY:

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
Item#:N82E16817139007

CPU:

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Model BX80601930
Item #: N82E16819115225

RAM:

Kingston HyperX 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K6/12GX
Item #: N82E16820104168

RAM FAN:

Kingston HyperX KHX-FAN Fans
Item #: N82E16835116021

MEDIA READER:

Koutech IO-RCM621 All-in-one USB 2.0 3.5" USB 2.0 Front Panel Multi-format Card Reader with USB 2.0 Port
Item #: N82E16820162024

CASE FAN CONTROLLER:

Sunbeam RHK-EX-BA Rheobus-Extreme Fan Controller Panel
Item #: N82E16811995016

I have no idea on the MB.

So some questions to you guys are:

1. What MB would you recommend for my build?

I went with the Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Model BX80601930 over Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 because of this new egg review comment. “Many people don't realize that for people interested in gaming (crossfire X and SLI) there is no option other than Bloomfield processors and above. Lynnwoods only let you use 16 PCIe lanes, so any more than one GPU bottlenecks. REAL i7's don’t have this, as their separate northbridge supports 32 lanes.”
Next year I want to put in another Radeon HD 5850 and actually see a difference, So….

2.Is the Bloomfield the choice for dual video cards?

3. The 1366 socket is the newest intel cpu socket so I should be able to upgrade CPU in 2 years and still have a good choice of cpus right?

4. On RAM, just buy a big name brand? Is 12 gigs of 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 to much? I’ll be using rig for gaming and video editing. The ram I selected does not have heat sink fins on top. Should I get Ram that has those heat sink fins?

5. I plan on getting three 120mm fans for the top of the case. Any recommendations for fans? Just make sure they are rubber mounted to reduce vibration?

6.Do case fan controllers like the one I selected actually work?

7. Will my power supply handle two video cards?

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#2 dpunisher

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 09:11 PM

1. Usually Asus or Gigabyte. As far as a specific recommendation, I don't really have one at this point. There are new X58 boards being released constantly. It would be a good idea to get one with USB3 support to future proof a bit.

2. Yes

3. Maybe, maybe not. Intel is changing the socket again on it's high end parts likely near the 4Q 2011- 1Q of 2012. Now, whether this will effect consumer choices is unclear, but servers are going to LGA 1567. Whether Intel will keep support up for/keep new CPUs coming for Socket 1366 is an unknown. Further down the road, you can always roll a 6 core CPU into it. Either way, it will still be a top performing system for at least two years. (assuming a decent overclock)

4. I like RAM with low heat spreaders as the tall ones sometime interfere with CPU coolers, as you might get tired of that H50 after awhile. i7 9XX CPUs run hot, nature of the beast. 6 gig is more than enough in 99% of the time. 12 gigs of RAM can often lower potential overclocks. The main thing I look for in RAM now is speed vs voltage. Some DDR3 needs 1.65V to go 1600, some need as little as 1.55V. Lower voltage RAM is cooler RAM.

5. For Fans, I usually head to SVC and go through specs till I find the CFM/db rating I can live with.

6. Yes. Whether you need one or not depends on whether you selected the right fans to begin with. Selecting high RPM/noisy fans to begin with make a controller mandatory vs being an option.

7. Yes. Not a big fan of that PSU though, eventhough I do like Corsairs. At this point I would go with an 850HX or 750HX, or wait awhile on the new AX series. http://www.corsair.com/news/press_release.aspx?id=1509336 Your system, even crossfired won't pull more than 450 watts total, so it would be right in the comfort zone of a 750-850 watt PSU.

Great case. Have you actually checked out the measurements on it as it is a really big case. I like big cases (my rig is in a full tower Enermax server case) but some don't realize what they are getting. You will have a nice system when it goes together.

Edited by dpunisher, 05 June 2010 - 10:10 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 09:45 PM

Great case. Have you actually checked out the measurements on it as it is a really big case. I like big cases (my rig is in a full tower Enermax server case) but some don't realize what they are getting. You will have a nice system when it goes together.



Yeah I have checked out the measurement. I am replacing a huge full tower. Thanks for answering all the questions. Good information to ponder. I appreciate it.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 07:14 PM

ditching the H50 CPU cooler.

Going to get Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835608018

Go big or go home.

Will be able to do a little OC with this one.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 05:29 PM

Moving a hard drive to a new computer usually requires a re-installation of the OS and unless you bought the full retail version of windows 7, you will have to re-buy Windows.

Edited by RainbowSix, 08 June 2010 - 05:33 PM.

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