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Problem, or time for new PC? (slow)


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#1 TripleDigitRide

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:50 PM

I make every attempt at being as thorough as possible, but I'll undoubtedly forget something, I'm sure.

I built this PC about 6 years ago while on a meager budget, and am wondering if it's time to finally upgrade. For the most part, this is the only PC I've used for the last 6 years, so I'm not sure if it's becoming sluggish, just old and outdated, or all of the above.

This PC has primarily been used for email, surfing, watching videos, and listening to music. Never been much of a "gamer". I've never had a feeling that it was becoming slow until a few days ago. I downloaded Full Tilt Poker, and that's where I began having issues. Most are probably not familiar with the program, so I'll do my best to explain.

When attempting to enter a tournament, you have to wait in the "lobby" for the designated time to register. When it's time to register, a button/icon will flash on the screen, and you must click the button/icon very quickly if you want to be one of the 250 players allowed to join the tournament. This often means you must be rapidly clicking the mouse at least seconds before the button/icon appears. A friend and I were playing on his PC without a single issue. We got in every single time. For some reason my PC seems to be less than responsive. I've attempted this several times on my PC, and have yet to get in a single tournament.

Anyway, Like I said, I built this PC about 6 years ago. Here is some info I think may be helpful.

I have cable internet access through Comcast @ 6 megs. Wired modem. I called Comcast, and everything appears to be functioning properly from their end.

I have no idea how accurate these sites are, but they seem to be the most recommended.

Speedtest.net results:

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Speakeasy.net results:

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Some helpful PC info:

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As suggested here, I booted in Safe Mode and ran complete scans with my security software (SUPERAntiSpyware, Malwarebytes, Ad-Aware Pro, Trend Micro Antivirus plus Spyware). With the exception of 4 tracking cookies, everything was clear. I run one or more (generally more) of these on a daily basis. I also run CCleaner on a daily basis. While I'm thinking of it, does it generally take 4+ hours to run a complete scan in Safe Mode with SUPERAntiSpyware? If I recall correctly it scanned roughly 66,000 items. Just seems like an extra long time to me.

When I was having trouble playing Full Tilt Poker, I even disabled my security software just to see if that would make a difference. It did not. I was still unable to play the game.

I know I'm forgetting something, but that's all I can think of right now.

Thank you in adavnce.

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I also ran a defrag (though it didn't really need it) and ScanDisk. I guess the ScanDisk took care of itself, because there was nothing on my screen mentioning it found errors or fixed anything. I've never used ScanDisk, so I'm not sure what to expect afer it's finished.

Edited by TripleDigitRide, 05 June 2010 - 09:42 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:44 PM

Many on line games require Java, the newest version last time I checked was update 6 version 20. from your control panel click on add/remove and see what version you have, if it's older uninstall all the old versions and get the newest version
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

that might/might not help?

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:50 PM

Many on line games require Java, the newest version last time I checked was update 6 version 20. from your control panel click on add/remove and see what version you have, if it's older uninstall all the old versions and get the newest version
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

that might/might not help?


I followed your directions and am seeing Java 6 Update 20. I'm also seeing Java 6 with several other Update numbers.

Edited by TripleDigitRide, 04 June 2010 - 09:53 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 09:42 AM

I also ran a defrag (though it didn't really need it) and ScanDisk. I guess the ScanDisk took care of itself, because there was nothing on my screen mentioning it found errors or fixed anything. I've never used ScanDisk, so I'm not sure what to expect after it's finished.

Edited by TripleDigitRide, 05 June 2010 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 12:29 PM

Adding memory is the cheapest/fastest way to upgrade your system. Can you change out the 2x512 for 2x 1gig or do you have another pair of ram slots available?

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 01:25 PM

Adding memory is the cheapest/fastest way to upgrade your system. Can you change out the 2x512 for 2x 1gig or do you have another pair of ram slots available?


Upgrading the memory from 2x512 to 2x1GB is my only option. I've been thinking about doing that, but I'd hate to drop $100+ on memory if it's not going to help much. I'm trying to find someone that may have a 2x1GB sitting around and willing to let me try it out before I drop the cash on new stuff.

It very well may be time for me to buy a new PC.

Edited by TripleDigitRide, 05 June 2010 - 01:26 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 01:50 PM

TripleDigitRide,

Before you think about a new computer or more memory how often do you clean up temp files and internet cache? You might need to just run the cleaners built into Ccleaner and Revo to make your comp run better. Is the Pagefile system a set amount or is it computer managed? Setting it to computer managed usually give best results.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 02:45 PM

TripleDigitRide,

Before you think about a new computer or more memory how often do you clean up temp files and internet cache? You might need to just run the cleaners built into Ccleaner and Revo to make your comp run better. Is the Pagefile system a set amount or is it computer managed? Setting it to computer managed usually give best results.

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Dan,

I run CCleaner at least once a day. I'm not familiar with the Pagefile system.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 02:57 PM

It's set to "adjust for best performance". Initial Size is set at 1440MB and maximum size is set at 2880MB. Recommended is 1533MB, so I changed it. Not sure if that was the best option, but I'll give it a shot.

Edited by TripleDigitRide, 05 June 2010 - 03:11 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:36 PM

I chose the "System Managed Size" and rebooted the PC. I haven't noticed any changes.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:50 PM

TripleDigitRide,

Do you have Revo Uninstaller on you computer? If not it is a free program you can download it from your favorite site or from Revo, If you install it what you want to run is the tracks cleaner. It can be found under tools, do browsers first then Microsoft Office make sure all are checked then the Windows cleaner again make sure all are checked. All these temp files clog up RAM and pagefile system. Another thing that may be over crowded is the System Restore with too many restore points. To clear these you must shut off system restore restart the computer turn on system restore and then make a new restore point. Hope this helps.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 07:58 AM

Dan,

I had already performed the System Restore suggestion.

I took your advice and used the Revo program. That's a great tool. I appreciate the suggestion.

I'm still unable to play Full Tilt Poker, but if nothing else, you folks have really helped me clean up my system. I'm sure it's performing far better than it was when I started.

I am currently trying to find 2x1GB memory in hopes that will solve the problem. I'm more than willing and happy to take any suggestions in regards to getting my system running at peak performance in its current state, but I don't think I can avoid the RAM upgrade. I just hope I don't have to dish out too much cash, only to find that it's simply not enough.

Thanks again.

Edited by TripleDigitRide, 06 June 2010 - 07:59 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 08:06 AM

I'm not sure which change(s) I made along the way would cause this, but I noticed when I started this thread, based on info I got from the PC Wizaed program, I had 79% System Resources Free and Swap File Size was at 716MB, now I have 61% System Resources Free and Swap File Size 532MB. Wondering if that has anything to do with the changes to the pagefile system?

Not sure if that's good or bad, but I thought it may be worth mentioning.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 10:09 AM

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 10:26 AM

Well...you are running a Celeron D processor with less than max memory.

Considering the changes which have taken place in hardware since that era...you cannot expect that system to compete with systems of more recent vintage.

If I was interested in maximizing performance by that system...I would increase to max RAM supported and do a clean install.

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