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#1 Rob the Newbie

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 11:48 AM

Here is my laptop information:

Mainboard : Dell 0U990C
Chipset : Intel M965
Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 @ 2000 MHz
Physical Memory : 4096 MB (2 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller
Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd) Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)
Network Card : Broadcom Corp BCM4310 USB Controller
Operating System : 6.01.7600
DirectX : Version 10.00

I was getting a low memory error when I had 2gb RAM, so I installed 4gb (though it only recognizes 3.5gb...I knew it would do that...) and I am still getting the problem. I do tend to watch tv shows on Ninjavideo, but it happens at other times too. I am running an Iobit RAM utility to tell me how much free memory I have. Currently I am at 62% free RAM, which I assume is okay. But then the memory will suddenly start to get used up and give me the warning. Trying to free up memory with the Iobit program then doesn't work.

Any ideas?

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 01:26 PM

Are you sure this warning is related to the RAM on your motherboard and not video RAM?

3.5 Gb is a lot of memory to use up. Unless you are using the 64 Bit version of Windows 7 (Which requires at least 2 Gb mininum) along with a few memory intensive programs running, I can't see this happening.

How much memory does your on-board video processor have to display graphics? That information was left out of your specs above.

Since you have Windows 7 installed, I would go to performance information and tools located in the Windows 7 Control Panel and use some of the diagnostic tools to see where your performance is lacking. Look for the Advance Tools located in the menus on the left side of this window

You can also see how Windows is allocating your memory in this section of the tools.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 01:31 PM

It says that I have 358mb memory for my video card when I go to dxdiag. But, like I say, I have RAM monitor running and it says that the RAM is low when this happens. Also, I am running 32-bit Windows 7. I agree that this is strange; I should add that I ran virus checkers and stuff, too. If it is a virus, I suppose it is something that wasn't caught, but I don't know.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 01:56 PM

Some of those RAM monitoring programs use resources as well while they are running, so that in its-self causes your RAM usage to go up.

You can use Process Explorer from Microsoft to see what's up with running processes, I have Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit installed and it runs fine on my machine.

Go to this page and read about the program, then download the program and run it.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb896653.aspx

Another program from sysinternals is Auto Runs available at this Microsoft link. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb963902.aspx

This program displays all running processes that are currently running on your machine.

Any questions please ask.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:15 PM

did you change or alter the Page file or virtual memory setting when this happen to get more ram for your video processes?

Windows 7 computers handle RAM in a different way way than XP How much ram are you using when at Idle typically I see 38-50% when running ide.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 09:13 AM

You are using an integrated video card, and that shares system memory. So you may have 3.5 gigs of RAM but your video card may use as posted 358Megs of RAM thats takes you down to 3.2 then from there you have your applications.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 03:08 PM

did you change or alter the Page file or virtual memory setting when this happen to get more ram for your video processes?

Windows 7 computers handle RAM in a different way way than XP How much ram are you using when at Idle typically I see 38-50% when running ide.


Mr. Bruce,

Thanks...I could use those, though knowing what programs I can or can't kill is beyond my ability (except for some obvious ones.) As for how my memory is being used, once I installed my upgraded memory I chose the selection to have windows manage my memory.

As I say, I have a RAM monitor and often everything is perfectly fine; I am anywhere from 60-70% free RAM. Then, suddenly I am low on memory at some point. I guess before Windows shuts my program down, I should run a process viewer and determine what is the hog at that point.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 05:42 PM

I guess you used the wrong quote above with your reply to me, but thats Ok I understand.

The Process Explorer program uses hi-lites to point out processes that are consuming large amounts of resources, resources are physical memory and virtual memory.

In the old days of Windows ME, 2000 and Xp, windows used the hard drive as virtual memory also called the swap file, when physical memory was limited or used up.

Thus the hard drive worked harder to keep up, because virtual memory is much slower.

The Process Explorer program will hi-lite high memory usage programs with a PINK or RED color, some processes may show up briefly and disappear again.

The process Explorer window also shows up to date graphs at the top of the screen that show spikes and declines for both memory usage and CPU usage.

It can also save this information for later analysis if you choose that option from the menu.

This program is designed to troubleshoot what the spikes are and when they happen and which ones consume the most resources during their peak.

If it helps, post back which processes you see during the peaks or which ones show with a RED hi-lite and we'll help you decide if this process should be disabled permanently.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 06:17 PM

Just putting my two cents-I dont know if you have it But my thoughts that you probably have a memory leak in one of your applications Source:http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/preventing-low-memory-problems#section_1

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 07:57 PM

Thanks again!

Well, I have it running at the moment; now, the only program that is pink is the ipod service module. But, this is probably not a problem (I guess) since my free RAM is at 66%. But from what you say, I should keep it running and see what is happening when the problem arises.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 08:00 PM

What all do you do on your computer, and what applications were you running when you got these issues?

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 10:34 PM

Thanks again!

Well, I have it running at the moment; now, the only program that is pink is the ipod service module. But, this is probably not a problem (I guess) since my free RAM is at 66%. But from what you say, I should keep it running and see what is happening when the problem arises.


Yes keep it running as it will track what is running and what is using most of your resources.

The ones that appear bright red are the ones to watch for. :huh:
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 10:50 PM

I'm sorry for butting in, but where are you getting low memory warnings from? Windows, or that iObit monitoring program?
As Bruce said....what do you need that program for?
4GB of RAM is more than plenty to run Win 7, so what's the reason to have another startup/process running?
Open Task Manager and you'll see how much RAM is used.
You have to remember, that Vista and 7 treats RAM totally different, than previous Windows versions.
More info: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/09/w...-my-memory.html

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 12:59 PM

I'm sorry for butting in, but where are you getting low memory warnings from? Windows, or that iObit monitoring program?
As Bruce said....what do you need that program for?
4GB of RAM is more than plenty to run Win 7, so what's the reason to have another startup/process running?
Open Task Manager and you'll see how much RAM is used.
You have to remember, that Vista and 7 treats RAM totally different, than previous Windows versions.
More info: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/09/w...-my-memory.html


I am getting warnings form Windows, which eventually shuts down the programs I am running. The IObit program I use for other things - it clears out temp files and stuff like that, but it also includes a RAM monitor which I don't always have running - I started running it AFTER the problem started.

I agree that 4GB of RAM is more than enough (actually, 3.5 gb, since I am in 32-bit), which I why I am puzzled.

Usually (but not always) it happens when I am watching a video from the Internet...but only intermittently. I watched 2.5 hours of video last night and no problems. So it is very unpredictable.

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 01:00 PM

What all do you do on your computer, and what applications were you running when you got these issues?



I'm sorry for butting in, but where are you getting low memory warnings from? Windows, or that iObit monitoring program?
As Bruce said....what do you need that program for?
4GB of RAM is more than plenty to run Win 7, so what's the reason to have another startup/process running?
Open Task Manager and you'll see how much RAM is used.
You have to remember, that Vista and 7 treats RAM totally different, than previous Windows versions.
More info: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/09/w...-my-memory.html


I am getting warnings form Windows, which eventually shuts down the programs I am running. The IObit program I use for other things - it clears out temp files and stuff like that, but it also includes a RAM monitor which I don't always have running - I started running it AFTER the problem started.

I agree that 4GB of RAM is more than enough (actually, 3.5 gb, since I am in 32-bit), which I why I am puzzled.

Usually (but not always) it happens when I am watching a video from the Internet...but only intermittently. I watched 2.5 hours of video last night and no problems. So it is very unpredictable.



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