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#1 henrysmom

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 01:23 AM

heres what i've got. is this good enough or should i add any new ones or get rid of any of this? thanks!

1) norton anti virus
2)ccleaner
3)ad-aware se
4)spybot s&d
5)cwshredder

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 01:27 AM

Don't forget MicroSoft AntiSpyware Beta.
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 02:08 AM

I would recommend using a firewall, in addition to the anti-virus and anti-spyware applications. There are several that you can download for free.
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 04:40 AM

fwiw here's mine; i feel like charlie brown. some of this is probably overkill but i'm sick of the crap that's "out there" so i ain't taking no prisoners. i am behind a hardware firewall set to stealth mode. i also check my ports at grc and norton frequently. my admin account is passworded and all unnecessary services disabled as per "blackviper".

things that are active protection; yes all of these boot at startup
winpatrol (free)
norton av (auto updated)
admuncher (blocks popups, bannerads, auto updated)
msas (auto updated)
spybot s&d teatimer (manual update)
webroot spysweeper (manual update)
pest patrol
spyware guard
spyware blaster
mvps host file protection along with spybot s&d host file

i used to have these in startup also but i wanted to cut back a little
ie spyad
a squared
ewido

things i run daily and check updates;
disc cleanup
msas
adaware
spybot s&d

things i run weekly;
norton av
norton one button checkup
spysweeper
pest patrol

one more thing;
FIREFOX is my default browser

i have used ccleaner and cwshredder. and i check my own hjt log for nasties.

the only thing i ever find is a cookie from live365. i get that after using mediaplayer so i use winamp now.

Edited by cybormoron, 29 September 2005 - 05:01 AM.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 05:25 AM

Thats quite the configuration of protection cybormoron. There must be quite a commotion when there needs to be a registry change.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:45 AM

LOL... I only have Spysweeper, ALl-In-One Secretmaker, S&D, SpyBlaster, NAV 2004 (w/autoupdate) and ZOneAlarm pro. Luckily i got 1Gb of ram and by previous standards powerful cpu (AthlonXP 2600), so everything is quick enough for me. I wouldn't let all that sh!t run in background if i wouldn't have 1gb of ram. IT DOES SLOW DOWN PC A LOT.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 01:42 PM

I run WinPatrol, Spybot, Ad-Aware, Spyware Blaster, E-Trust EZ A-V, and the XP firewall. Never any problems.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 02:58 PM

pretty neat huh, leurgy? they all seem to get along ok. bootup takes about 2 minutes and 15 seconds. they all do popup whenever i install anything. i never turn 'em off. i just click "ok' and finish the install.


really tho, it's pretty ridiculous and sad that i have to run all this stuff. i'm really just a novice and ain't got a clue what i'm doing. this is just my own setup. not having access to a computer professional to show me what is necessary and what isn't means i'm pretty much on my own. seems to me that an isp should be more responsible or perhaps liable for what happens with my internet connection, but that's just my opinion.

henrysmom...i'm just showing what i have. i hope it helps. i can't say all of this will work for you.

Edited by cybormoron, 29 September 2005 - 03:17 PM.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 03:52 PM

Generally all you need is a spyware blocker such as Spy-Sweeper ($19), it has a powerful scanner and got many shields. You also need firewall and an Anti-virus. It isn't even necessary to have anti-virus running on background all the time.. unless you'r one of those who opens unknown attatchments, installs software before scanning it for viruses and always looking for trouble.

But as you said, if you'r not sure what you need.. then as we all know IT"S BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY>>> :thumbsup: Turn them all on. :flowers:

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 04:24 PM

pretty neat huh, leurgy? they all seem to get along ok. bootup takes about 2 minutes and 15 seconds. they all do popup whenever i install anything. i never turn 'em off. i just click "ok' and finish the install.


really tho, it's pretty ridiculous and sad that i have to run all this stuff. i'm really just a novice and ain't got a clue what i'm doing.  this is just my own setup. not having access to a computer professional to show me what is necessary and what isn't means i'm pretty much on my own. seems to me that an isp should be more responsible or perhaps liable for what happens with my internet connection, but that's just my opinion.

henrysmom...i'm just showing what i have. i hope it helps. i can't say all of this will work for you.

Hi there,

Several issues raised here. It is essential to have stern protection, especially now when when malware vendors are upping the stakes in a serious way. But, just as important is 'understanding' your security protection and how it works. Essentially, you are wanting to protect your machine from 4 kinds of threats:

a) Viruses

:thumbsup: Trojans

c) Spyware (of which there are subcatagories)

d) Hackers

Although, one can add an extra threat to the group....

e) Phishing


Unfortunately, there is not one single program that can cover all of these issues, neither is there in my view, one that can even cover some. The trend tends to be security programs specialising in one aspect...and perhaps providing 'some' cover in another.

The result is experts having to recommend a multi-layered security system incorporating multiple programs. That's fine to the extent that their are some excellent free programs out there to cover each aspect, but confusing to the user as they have to then understand multiple programs, as well as update/renew them when required.

There is no easy and simple answer. The key is 'education', learning about the threats that are there and how these systems work. That is the biggest step to full security, as that knowledge allows you to know what you need to protect and how.

How to build a system that protects from each? let's run it down:

a) Viruses

For this you simply need a good AV, some good free ones are:

1.) Antivirus Free

2.) AVAST

3.) Grisoft AVG 7


:flowers: Trojans

This is rather more of a problem. Trojans are really the 'dark horse' of the moment. AV's tend to detect trojans as an 'after thought' and only some, the same for antti-spyware scanners. It's all rather ad-hoc. Essentially specialised software is needed to protect against/remove trojans. Unfortunately, there are only 3 reputeable ones: Trojan Hunter, Ewido and A-Squared. But, they each have flaws. In the case of Trojan Hunter, in the short-term it's extremely expensive, although the license is for life. For those short in the pocket, the evaluation version is only for a month, after that you lose the resident (trojan guard) but worse, you are no longer entitled to updates. Ewido has a free version, the trial one can have for 14 days but after which updates are free indefinately. The problem is it will only work on Win 2000/XP. A-Squared also has a trial version, but will allow updates after that point. But, it is overly rich in FP's (false positives), but worse, it has no restore capability in case anything was deleted by mistake. My advice for trojans, is use Ewido...if you have Win 2000/XP...if not...A-Squared is really the only long-term option unless you have a deep pocket. But, have a real care what you remove.

C) Spyware.

On this, you need to have a care. There are many companies out there pedaling so-called spyware protection/scaners that are at best poor, at worst criminal.

There are though several excellent and trustworthy and 'free' spyware scanners:

Ad-Aware SE
A tutorial on using Ad-Aware to remove spyware from your computer may be found here

and
Spybot-Search & Destroy
A tutorial on using Spybot to remove spyware from your computer may be found here. Please also remember to enable Spybot's "Immunize" and "TeaTimer" features.

Bazooka is also a good scanner, although it will not remove spyware, only direct you to a page on how to remove it, but useful still and it scans in about 5 seconds ;)

Finally, there is Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta.

The problem with that, whilst it is excellent and free, is that it will only work on XP (you are not considered important if you have another OS). All these scanners are signature based.

Then there is protection from spyware and pestware being loaded onto your system in the first place:

SpywareBlaster
A tutorial on using SpywareBlaster to prevent spyware from ever installing on your computer may be found here.

SpywareGuard
A tutorial on using SpywareGuard for realtime protection against spyware and hijackers may be found here.

SpywareGuard never needs updating, but Spywareblaster does. SpywareBlaster prevents spyware being loaded onto your system in the first place by setting a kill bit. SpywareGuard prevents Home Page hijacks and depends on hieristics while SpywareBlaster is signature based.

A Block List will prevent many threats gaining access to your machine through Internet Explorer, by simply double clicking on a downloaded .reg file it adds the block list directly into your registry setting a kill bit for each malware item on the list Spyware Block List

d) Hackers

Pure and simple, a good firewall is essential. The MS XP firewall is not up to the job as it priotects you from incoming threats only, not malware dialing out. There are some very good free firewalls:

ZoneAlarm and Sygate.
A tutorial on understanding and using firewalls may be found here.


e) Phishing

Prevent being directed to fake sites and handing out your security details by Internet phishing scams with an anti-phishing toolbar Netcraft Anti-Phishing Toolbar for Internet Explorer

Mozilla/Firefox also has the SpoofStick plugin for the same purpose.


For privacy issues and preventing spyware cookies etc, use a good HOSTS file:

This will give you stern protection when using IE, as well as cutting out those annoying adds from sites in IE, Firefox and other browsers. A brief tutorial and download is here:

http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

This works well with IE-Spyad, a tutorial on it and link to download can be found here:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...showtutorial=53

For the trully parranoid, there are further security steps that can be taken as well as extra tools, although those are better not to be used without the guidance of a professional.

The other issue raised was the political one. Should our ISP's be doing more to educate/ protect us? Our OS providers? The legislature? For sure. There are responsibilities there that they simply are not meeting. For that, we need to keep the pressure on them to change their practice, rules and laws. Until that time though, it is up to us to protect ourselves and ours.

I hope this helped :trumpet:

Big Smiles

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#11 henrysmom

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Posted 30 September 2005 - 07:16 AM

thanks to you all. i have added some needed items!

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Posted 01 October 2005 - 11:38 AM

my downloads here
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Posted 01 October 2005 - 03:39 PM

The problem with that, whilst it is excellent and free, is that it will only work on XP (you are not considered important if you have another OS). All these scanners are signature based.

It also supports Windows 2000 .
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