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AMD Phenom VS Athlon for gaming


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#1 mhc

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 02:05 PM

What processor is better for gaming AMD Phenom or AMD Athlon. Or would Intel be the way to go? Also if you think intel which processor the i series?

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 02:53 PM

I don't particularly have a lot of experience with different processors, but my AMD Phenom II X2 550 is wonderful. Can't say anything about the others.

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 07:38 PM

the phenom definetly has a perfomance increase over the athlon, the athlon is more of their budget chip now, for more casual computing, the phenom is the performance chip and would be better for gaming if you want a gaming chip.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 06:58 AM

The phenom is a much more superior chip than the athlon. However even better is the
intel i7 and i5 series....but you can expect to pay more for the intel chips. Here's some pricing

intel i7 920

intel i7 930

amd 955 phenom

Whichever chip you choose you can't go wrong.
Hoppefully this helps!

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:11 PM

Can anyone tell me which one is better?

AMD PHENOM-2 QUAD CORE 965-BE with 3.4 GHZ or AMD PHENOM-2 SIX CORE 1055T with 2.8 GHZ?

I' m confused..why the six core have lower GHZ than the quad one?

What is the function of GHZ?

Thanks!

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 12:29 AM

ghz is the frequency in which the processor runs at. In theory, the fasther the frequency, the faster the processor, however, there are other things to consider in a processor, like cache size, how efficienct the CPU makes use of the cache, bus speed, and of course, the cores. For example, lets take 2 dual core CPUs, an athlon x2 3800+ and a athlon x2 6000+ They are both dual core, the 3800+ runs at 2 ghz with a 1 mb level 2 cache size (if I remember right) the 6000+ runs at 3 ghz with a 2 mb level 2 cache. the 6000+ will run faster then the 3800+, it has a faster frequency, and larger cache. But, the cores go into play. lets take a 6000+ and compare it to a athlon II x4 620, which is a quad core at 2.6 ghz with a 2 mb level 2 cache. the quad core, will, in most modern apps, outperform the 6000+. To explain myself better, each core, is basically, a processor in itself. So a dual core processor, is really 2 processors in one, and a quad, is 4 processors in one. four processors, even at a slower clock rate, will outperform 2 processors, that is of course if the software supports it. If the software doesnt support quad or 6 core technology, then the faster dual core would be better, however, in todays modern world, that is rarely the case.

the 6 core processor then, would outperform the 965 because it basically has two more processors on the die, giving that much more performance out of the chip. It has 6 cores running at 3.2 ghz instead of 4 cores running at 3.4 ghz, and add in the 3 mb level 2 cache and 6 mb level 3 makes for an outstanding processor that will outperform any other AMD processor on the market.

To further explain the cache, in the phenom line there are 3 levels of "cache" cache, is basically memory stored on the processor for common commands the processor uses, each seperate core has its own cache-in fact 2 levels of it, level 1 and level to. Each core uses the memory as needed, once the level once cache is full, it goes to the level 2 cache, so in the 1090T each core has 512 KB of level 2 cache that each core has to itself. once that level 2 cache is full, the phenoms have a level 3 cache, which is basically memory that all the cores share, thereby improving performance.

The bus speed, is basically, in easy terms, controls how fast the processor, communicates with the rest of the computer, so the faster the bus speed, the better. This has been intels biggest drawback, in that its bus speed tends to bottleneck their CPUs speed, while AMDs is far faster. This is not necessarily a slam on intel by any means and a don't buy intel for any reason, its just a lil tidbit of information to know, each brand has its positives and negatives. AMD CPUs tend to draw more power and run a little hotter, but not a big deal if the system is built right.

So I hope I helped shed a little light on your question. :D

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 02:32 AM

Ohh.. I see..That means although the six core have lower Ghz than the quadraple..the six core still faster than the quadraple because its new technology..Am I right patriot09?

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 04:04 AM

That is correct. In some cases a CPU with a fasther speed will outperform a CPU with more cores, but usually only if there is a huge speed difference. For example, my 3 ghz dual core athlon will match out and beat several 1.6 ghz to 2 ghz quads without to much effort in most cases, but in this case it would not as the 965 is only 200 mhz faster which is not enough to even match it.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 09:38 AM

Thank you very much the patriot09 for the information..You really help me to understand more about processor.. :thumbsup:

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 02:47 PM

AS a side note (sorry if this was addressed i didn't read the whole thread). Some games and programs won't address all 6 cores so then it will depend on the speed of each core to determine the speed of the program. IE: a program that only addresses one core will run faster on a 3.0 ghz dual core then on a 2.0 ghz six core. Although you would be hard pressed to find a 6 core under 3 ghz unless they are doing a budget processor.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 04:45 PM

As of right now, AMD only has 2 6 cores out, one at 2.8 ghz, and one at 3.2.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 08:15 PM

Ok there is one I stand corrected Lol :flowers: :thumbsup:

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