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#1 cattch08

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:14 AM

Hi i have a ACER AX3812 small desktop computer and my son is unable to play some of his sports games as the graphics card is not compatible. Having contacted ACER i am told i can not upgrade my card as it is a mini card. I have been told that i need a PCI EXPRESS low profile card but cant be fitted to this machine can anyone help me please see spec below thnx

System Information
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Time of this report: 3/28/2010, 19:45:13
Machine name: ALZ-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Acer
System Model: Aspire X3812
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4062MB RAM
Page File: 3001MB used, 5118MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel® G45/G43 Express Chipset
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E22&SUBSYS_02501025&REV_03
Display Memory: 1695 MB
Dedicated Memory: 32 MB
Shared Memory: 1663 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: MD32117PQ
Monitor Id: MED87C0
Native Mode: unknown
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumdx32,igd10umd32
Driver File Version: 8.15.0010.1872 (English)
Driver Version: 8.15.10.1872
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/13/2009 22:53:46, 5616640 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6D62-11CF-C574-5A22A3C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2E22
SubSys ID: 0x02501025
Revision ID: 0x0003
Driver Strong Name: oem29.inf:Intel.Mfg.NTamd64:iEGL0:8.15.10.1872:pci\ven_8086&dev_2e22
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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#2 dpunisher

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:42 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....mp;Order=RATING

I might go with a HD5570 or HD4650, but that is just an opinion. Problem is that these cards pull anywhere from 45-50 watts loaded, and the PSU in that system is a 220 watt unit. I don't have any info on what type/formfactor of PSU that system takes. Fully loaded, that system would pull ~150 watts which would put it near the limits of my comfort zone for a 220 watt OEM PSU, maybe a bit over the comfort zone.

EDIT: Just to clarify, you are looking for a PCI-E/PCI Express card, not a regular PCI or AGP. The link I have lumps them together.

Edited by dpunisher, 26 April 2010 - 12:29 PM.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:48 AM

OK your system specs are as follows.

Graphic Card PCI Express 16x Graphic expansion slot offering a choice of approved ATI and nVidia graphic cards
Intel® G43 on-die graphics solution, featuring:
Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator (Intel® GMA) X4500, Intel® Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0 (Intel® DVMT 5.0) support, Microsoft® DirectX® 10 support, Enhanced 3D and Intel® Clear Video Technology support

TV-tuner card Hybrid analog and digital TV-tuner card, supporting software MPEG-2 stream encoding

Dimensions 265 (H) x 352 (D) x 100 (W) mm (with bezel)

I/O ports Front:
Five USB 2.0 ports, Multi-in-one card reader, High-definition headphone and microphone jacks, IEEE 1394 port (4-pin)
Rear:
Four USB 2.0 ports, PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports, Five audio ports, Ethernet (RJ-45) port, D-sub VGA port, HDMI™ port, eSATA port, Optical S/PDIF port

Power Supply 220 watts

They do sell low-profile PCI-E video cards

Check this link out please for low profile video cards at newegg.com, these will give you an idea as to what you might want to try.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....file+video+card

Note: you only have a 220 Watt power supply which might not be enough to support some video cards, you might want to think about upgrading your power supply to something above 500 Watts continuous duty cycle.

Best regards.

Edited by MrBruce1959, 26 April 2010 - 11:51 AM.

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