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#1 Reynolds773

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 09:05 PM

I am building a PC for the first time and I would like some experts input on what to purchase. I am making a gaming PC, so I need some pretty good stuff. I tried keeping it under a grand, but that was hard for me lol. Here is a list of what I was looking at + links:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811156241

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813186193

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102864

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115215

Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139005

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820144382

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136098

Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824236052

CD/ DVD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827135201

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 09:13 PM

you may need a higher wattage PSU but everything else is awsome for a gaming rig. you could get a core i7 depending on what games you want to play.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 09:24 PM

Hmmm...Is the i7 really worth it? It's $80 more and the only difference I see is the operating frequency, which is 2.8 Ghz while the i5 is 2.66 Ghz. Also, could you kindly link me to a stronger power supply for about the same price?

Edited by Reynolds773, 24 April 2010 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2010 - 09:33 PM

I like the looks of that case as much as I could like one from a picture. It seems to have plenty of cooling with the two front fans and the two tops fans. My only concern would be about how much room there is to work with inside. Things can get cramped in a hurry, but I like that price lol. I am also leery of the Mobo/CPU choice. Do you really want a MICRO sized motherboard? I haven't kept up with price to performance ratio recently (about a month) and it can sometimes change pretty quickly, but you may be able to get the same performance for less with an AMD combo.

I wouldn't get my monitor from Newegg. Look at their return policy. 8 pixels may not look like much when you read the words on a return policy page, but those same 8 dead pixels can annoy the crap out of you in game.

You didn't specify your OS. Can I assume 64 bit Win7?

You seem to have made some really sensible choices. Some of the hardware experts here though can probably fine tune your build a little bit for a better machine for less cash.

Good luck.

Edited by DeathStalker, 24 April 2010 - 09:34 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:01 PM

Conversely, I would stay with an i5 and that PSU. The i5-750 is the sweetspot when it comes to gaming, plus a lot of overclocking headroom. TX 650 has plenty of overhead for that system (even with SLI 5770s at 108 watts each) and there really is no better PSU in that price range.

Couple things to nitpick though: Why that motherboard? A full ATX board with a P55 chipset would be more open to expansion possibilities. You might get the "SLI" itch down the road. Just an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128425

Oh, try to pick up some 1600 DDR3 instead of the 1333 as it will give you a bit more headroom when overclocking. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....mp;Order=RATING

Finding memory that runs at 1600 at a lower voltage (1.5v) is also a plus. No need for fancy RAM cooling garbage. FWIW, I think highly of the G-Skill

Edited by dpunisher, 24 April 2010 - 10:06 PM.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:11 PM

Very good choices for case, PSU, video card, & monitor. The PSU is more than enough for your purposes.
You may also want to look at the AMD Phenom II x4 965 for your CPU. It has roughly similar performance. It also is less expensive and is unlocked for easy overclocking.
Change your motherboard. Now. I made the mistake of going with a MicroATX motherboard and I regret it. A good budget intel motherboard is the ASRock H55DE but if you go the AMD route, a good choice is the ASUS M4A785TD-V.
Your RAM is overkill. G.Skill Ripjaws series is excellent RAM.
You can get a 500GB hard drive for not much more.
Lite-On has a very inexpensive CD/DVD burner.

Edited by RainbowSix, 24 April 2010 - 10:18 PM.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:20 PM

nevermind

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:45 PM

I actually just went to HP's website and built a computer. It seems to have everything I want. The total cost is $1418.98 and I don't have to put it together myself. Tell me if I'm missing anything.

* Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
* Intel® Core™ i5-750 quad-core processor [2.66GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]
* FREE UPGRADE! 6GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs] from 4GB
* 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
* 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5770 [2 DVI,HDMI,DP,VGA adapter]
* LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
* Integrated 10/100/1000 (Gigabit) Ethernet, No wireless LAN
* 15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio
* No TV Tuner
* Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
* 20% OFF! HP stereo speakers with subwoofer and remote 30W
* HP multimedia keyboard and HP optical mouse
* Microsoft® Works 9.0
* Norton Internet Security™ 2010 - 15 month
* SAVE $30! Upgrade to Cyberlink DVD Suite Premium -- Special Deal
* HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
* HP w2338h 23" Diagonal Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor

Edited by Reynolds773, 24 April 2010 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:53 PM

yeah that seems ok but why would you want to not build one thats the reason people buy and build them on their own that's art of the fun.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 10:55 PM

http://www.ibuypower.com/
Much better than HP.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 11:03 PM

I really do want to build one. I'm 17, so I still live at home with my parents. My dad would rather have it pre-built instead of trying to build it myself. I told him I want to learn how to do it, but he wants me to check out sites where they are pre-built.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 03:51 AM

Building a PC can be simple and fun if you take the time to do research (Which you are doing here :thumbsup: ). For a grand, you can get a very nice PC. Given that price point, I suggest AMD as you get nearly the same performance and you can shift your money elsewhere. $1000 will get you a good PC, but you may have to cut back on the monitor to get it to the $1000 range, or downgrade the CPU to get it even lower if the $1000 is a hard limit that takes in shipping also. Here's a suggestion:

Case: COOLER MASTER ELITE 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - A good case that will handle most hardware you put inside. Since it is a mid-ATX tower, very large graphics cards may not fit or be installed very tightly. Do be careful with cases as shipping prices can be outrageous. $49

Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - This is a good motherboard that takes AMD's newer AM3 CPU's, has DDR3 memory, and on-board video. This is an upper mid-level motherboard that comes with Crossfire and will take their new six-core CPU's when they are released. $99

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz - This is one of AMD's best CPU's and can hold its own against many of the lower-level Intel CPU's. Since this is Black Edition, the multiplier is unlocked making overclocking very easy. If you need to reduce costs more, the AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz is an option, though, it is not unlocked. $159

GPU: GIGABYTE GV-R577UD-1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB - The 5770 is a great mid-level card. More powerful than many at its price point, but is still substantially outclassed by the 58xx series. The 5770 has the performance of a 4870 while drawing less power, producing less heat, and comes with DirectX 11. $164 (Before $10 mail-in rebate)

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - Although DDR3-1600 RAM would be ideal, DDR3-1333 RAM will also work well and offer similar performance in most applications in comparison to 1600. This is standard RAM without any extra heatsinks, so it is not designed for overclocking. If you want that type of RAM, I suggest G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Model F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK. $103

Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W - Thermaltake makes good power supplies, as does Corsair, Silverstone, OCZ, PC Power, and Seasonic. For a single Radeon 5770, 450W is suggested, 600W should be more than enough if you choose to upgrade in the future. $69 (Before $15 mail-in rebate)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB - A basic drive that has plenty of space. $79

Optical Drive: LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH24NS50 - You only really need a simple drive. $24

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - You need a 64-bit operating system to use 4GB or more of RAM. $99

Monitor: ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" - Asus makes some good, and stylish, monitors. Less expensive models include SAMSUNG 22" 5ms LS22MYKEBWC/ZA and ASUS VH222H Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen. The second Asus monitor is very similar to the first, only smaller and the Samsung doesn't offer HDMI nor 1080P. I've ordered a monitor off Newegg and did not have any issues, but standard monitors typically don't get "white glove" treatment by Newegg the way televisions or large, specialized monitors do. Therefore it is best to keep the time the monitor is in shipping as low as possible. Strangely, Asus' dead pixel policy is less stringent than Newegg's at 5 or more. Personally, unless there is a very good deal online, I would go with a local store but sometimes, it is worth it to go online. $199 (Before $10 mail-in rebate)

Grand Total: $1,053 (Before rebates and shipping)

Edited by DJBPace07, 25 April 2010 - 03:55 AM.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 10:47 AM

Yhat's a shame. Big box manufacturers give you bargain basement crappy PSU's, Mobo's and RAM built by the chinese so who KNOWS what toxic metals are in parts. Oh well, gotta do what your dad says.

At least check out Vision Computers DO NOT get the Norton. Use Microsoft Security Essentials FOR FREE FOREVER. And most certaily, don't let them load that crapware Cyberlink junk on much less PAY for it.

Vision computers is what Dell USED to be before they got to big............ If I ever bought a prebuilt computer again, I would use them.

EDIT: i just checked their site to compare what you spec'ed at HP with what Vision would charge. It looks like they don't offer ATI GPU's. I didn't check about AMD CPU's but I immediately sent them an email asking about that. If they are a dedicated fanboy site for intel and nVidia, I completely TAKE BACK my recommendation of them. you can never get the best deal or the best computer from a fanboy, monopoly manufacturer.

Edited by DeathStalker, 25 April 2010 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 25 April 2010 - 03:22 PM

I just made one on iBUYPOWER. It seems to have everything I want + more for about the same price. I am going to hold off on the monitor for a little bit. I can use my current one for now. I am also getting Windows XP Professional from a friend. The total price for all of this is $1091 shipped.

Intel P55 Core i5/i7 Configurator
Case ( NZXT Guardian 921 Gaming Tower Case - Black )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light - Blue )
Processor ( Intel® Coreâ„¢ i5 750 Processor (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache) )
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive ( None )
Processor Cooling ( [Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [SOCKET-1156] )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
Video Card ( ATI Radeon HD 5850 - 1GB - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 )
Motherboard Add-on ( None )
Power Supply ( 700 Watt -- Power Supply - SLI Ready )
Primary Hard Drive ( 640 GB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )
Meter Display ( None )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Netbook / Notebook Bundle ( None )
Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( None )
External Hard Drives [USB 3.0/2.0/eSATA] ( None )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
MP3/MP4 Player ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

Edited by Reynolds773, 25 April 2010 - 03:26 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2010 - 08:58 PM

Windows XP is a terrible idea for a gaming build.
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