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#1 uwwmatt

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 02:52 AM

Hello all,

I am new to the forums and new to the computer building world. I have been researching on and off for the past few months and I think I have settled on a list of parts.

What I am looking for:

Uses (in order):
1.Gaming
2. HTPC (streaming hulu and Netflix hooked up to 40inch 1080p HD tv)
3. Photo editing (Photoshop CS4)
4. Websurfing
5. Video Editing (I would like to learn adobe premiere but don't plan on doing huge projects.)

Budget:$1000 (not counting OS)

Other info:
My idea was to get a computer that is somewhat future proof letting my add another graphics card later in crossfire without having to upgrade any of the other parts. That however won't be for some time.

I like the idea of overclocking, but nothing that requires any crazy sort of computer cooling. I would appreciate any thoughts you guys may have on the overclockability of my components.

I am also planning on running a dual boot system with Windows 7 and Linux. Any thoughts on this would also be helpful.

Parts:
Processor-Intel Core I5-750 2.66GHz LGA 1156 $199+free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115215

Motherboard-Asus P7P55D ATX Intel Motherboard $149.99 +2.99 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131404

Memory-G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2G) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Memory $105+free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231277

HD-OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX30GXXX 2.5" 30GB SATA II MLC $99.99 +free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227393

Power Supply-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready $89.99 +free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139006

GPU-XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 $309.99 +7.56 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814150477

Case-COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $54.99 + free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119068

Total (including shipping): $1,029.50
OS-Windows 7 64-bit

I already have a 1tb HDD that I will be using for storing data

Thanks for your help!

Matt

Edited by uwwmatt, 12 April 2010 - 02:55 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:41 AM

Not on your list, a DVD drive or burner. Do you have one you are going to re-use? If not, they don't cost much, HERE are some from Newegg.com. Of course if you have one, ignore this post... :thumbsup:

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Ooops, your stuff looks good to me, others will be by with more of a techie mind to let you know if there are any problems.. :huh:

Edited by Wildabeast, 12 April 2010 - 05:44 AM.

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#3 uwwmatt

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:33 AM

Not on your list, a DVD drive or burner. Do you have one you are going to re-use? If not, they don't cost much, HERE are some from Newegg.com. Of course if you have one, ignore this post... :thumbsup:

Edit,

Ooops, your stuff looks good to me, others will be by with more of a techie mind to let you know if there are any problems.. :huh:


Hey Wildabeast, thanks for taking a look at my info. I have a couple cd/dvd burners that I am going to use from my old computer.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:16 AM

You might as well replace the SSD with an identical 1TB HDD and use RAID 0. You'll save money, get more disk space, and may have better performance. The downsides are that disk failure is significantly higher and it is more complicated to set up.
I recommend replacing the case. That one only supports two fans (but can be made to use 3 by removing the side funnel) of which only one is 120mm. The Antec 300 is a great case but it would be wise to add at least one more 120mm fan.
Have you thought about AMD? The Phenom II 965 will give you roughly the same performance but with lower costs for the processor and motherboard.
I advise against getting an ATI card if you plan to use Linux. The drivers are so bad, they might as well not exist. The Geforce GTX 400 series was recently released and would be a much better match for a high-performance Linux system.

Things I would change:
Case: Antec 300 (+$5)
Processor: Phenom II 965 (-$19)
Motherboard: ASUS M4N75TD (-$50)
Video card: Geforce GTX 470 (+$40) [out of stock, unfortunately]
Hard drive: RAID 0 requires an identical HDD

Edited by RainbowSix, 12 April 2010 - 09:38 AM.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:26 PM

Things I would change:
Case: Antec 300 (+$5)
Processor: Phenom II 965 (-$19)
Motherboard: ASUS M4N75TD (-$50)
Video card: Geforce GTX 470 (+$40) [out of stock, unfortunately]
Hard drive: RAID 0 requires an identical HDD


Thanks for the comments.

I looked at the Phenom 965 vs the i5-750 and they do seem very close on specs (except when you get into video and photo editing and the i5 pulls ahead). The reason I decided to go with the i5 was upgrade-ability. If I ever wanted to upgrade to one of the i7 chips I could without changing everything. I am less familiar with AMD. What would be my options for upgrading the 965 later while keeping the motherboard?

I am not too worried about graphic in linux, because I won't really be running any gpu heavy programs in Ubuntu.

I will check into some other cases to see if I can find a better option with more fans at the same price point. I noticed the Phenom chips draw more power, do they require more cooling too?

RAID 0 vs SSD
The HDD that I have already has 500g worth of data on it, so if I wanted to go with RAID 0 I would need to get two completely new ones. After a quick look on Newegg it looks like I could get 2x 500gb Western Digital Caviar Blacks for $70 each (making the RAID 0 about $40 more then the 30g SSD).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...6-320-_-Product

Storage capacity isn't the main issue when I was considering the SSD. So if we forget about the GB/$ scale will I get more performance/reliability from the $140 RAID 0 or the $99 SSD?

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 12:59 AM

Storage capacity isn't the main issue when I was considering the SSD. So if we forget about the GB/$ scale will I get more performance/reliability from the $140 RAID 0 or the $99 SSD?

Performance will likely be about the same, but an SSD has a much lower chance of failing.
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 01:09 AM

I suggest the AMD Phenom II X4 965 for three reasons, it is unlocked for easy overclocking, the AM3 socket is the only socket AMD uses, thus making future upgrade paths easier, and it is very close to the i5 in terms of performance. With the performance issue, in gaming, most titles rely heavily on the GPU further leveling out the differences between the CPU's at higher resolutions. Unless you're using vector graphics, 2D image editing will be fast regardless of CPU. Most of the high performance i7's use a different socket with triple channel memory, you will not be able to fully harness the power of the i7's. This might not be much of an issue since Intel is replacing the LGA 1366 socket with a newer, and incompatible with 1366 CPU's, socket. Also, note that many LGA 1156 motherboards are considered mainstream boards, with PCI-E X16 speeds reduced while using multiple graphics cards. With the RAID issue, RAID 0 has no redundancy so if one drive fails, you lose all data. The SSD is far more reliable and should last longer than two platter-based drives in RAID 0. Whichever SSD you may end up choosing, make sure it has TRIM to keep the performance high.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 01:41 AM

Would this case be better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...463938&SID=

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 07:31 AM

Yes. The included fans usually aren't great but it supports up to four more fans, so add at least one more. Side and bottom fans should be intake but a top fan should be for exhaust.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835228010

Edited by RainbowSix, 13 April 2010 - 07:33 AM.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 11:58 PM

That case will work well, however, it is mid-ATX which means that large graphics cards will not fit well.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:29 AM

Thanks guys.

I pulled the trigger today and the parts are already in the mail.

I went with the rosewill case and I also added this after market CPU cooler
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10...6048&sr=8-2

Now I have heard that in order for my memory to reach 1600 I need to overclock my cpu. Do I do that all through the BIOS or is there other programs that I can use?

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:34 PM

Now I have heard that in order for my memory to reach 1600 I need to overclock my cpu.

No, this has nothing to do with the CPU. You have to change the memory speed multiplier in the BIOS. You may also have to raise memory voltage.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:08 PM

I ordered my OS today. I called Microsoft and asked them for Windows 7 Professional 64-bit full install and all I had to do was provide them with my old .edu email address. The total came to $68 and I was immediately emailed my product key and a link to download the ISO. Not a bad deal.




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