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Can i Run Empire total war when demo is super laggy?


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#1 binini

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 06:34 PM

so i downloaded the demo i have the requirements but the demo runs really badly the starting video is super jumpy and the gameplay is painstakingly slow, i have set it to its lowest graphic settings.


Computer spec:

Dell c521
running 32 bit windows 7
processor: AMD 64 Dual Core 5000+ 2.6ghz
Ram : 3GB
Graphics: Radeon X1300-X1550 series

Why is it running so slowly?

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 12:32 AM

Requirements:

Operating System: Windows XP 32(service pack 2), Windows Vista 32 OS.
Processor: 2.4 GHz Single Core Intel or AMD equivalent processor.
System Memory: 1GB RAM (XP) 2GB RAM (Vista).
Graphics Card: 256MB DirectX 9.0c compatible video card (shader 2.0 or higher).
Sound Card: Directx9.0c compatible sound card.
Windows compatible mouse & keyboard.
15 GB free uncompressed hard drive space

Usually, the requirements are a mere suggestion. Have you gone to Can You Run It? to perform a requirements test? The Radeon card you have is considered their budget line and if it is integrated, taking over a portion of your RAM for video processing.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 08:39 PM

From the specs that DJBPace07 posted, I'd say it's your graphics card that's causing the slowdown. A quick Google suggests that the Dell C521 is a desktop, so you should be able to upgrade the graphics card, albeit this will probably void the warranty.

The requirements that are on the side of the box are literally the minimum that the game need's to run - and that's it. It's just saying "if your machine has these features, you can run the game". No indication of performance is implied, although if you're on or close to the requirements, it'll probably be really slow.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 02:28 AM

Indeed, the minimum, and sometimes even recommended, specs don't list what is needed to run the game well. They will certainly start the game, but whether or not they will deliver high performance is entirely another question.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 05:34 AM

what graphics card would you recomend ( looking to spend around 50)

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 06:48 AM

There's not really a lot of choice at that price point. According to Toms Hardware Guide, the best card at $80 (~=50) is an nVidia GeForce 9600GT, however at Overclockers it was 62.31. If you really can't stretch above 50, your best best is an ATI Radeon 4650. If you can stretch to ~80, get an 4850, I hear they're quite exceptional.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 11:26 PM

Well, you may have problems with many cards. From the Dell site, the C521 has a 280W power supply. The 4850 requires a 450W power supply so you're going to need a low-end GPU. I'm also not sure if that case is a slim-line or not. If it is, you will also need a low profile card.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:51 PM

I run a HD 5770 with Thermaltake generic(Litepower) 400 watt psu(450 peak) and that needs a 75 watt connecter.
Requirements for the HD 5770 is 450 watts and a 75 watt connecter.


I was going to buy the HD 4670.
Its requirements is 350-400 watts i think, but i heard people running it on 250 watts GENERIC !!!( ithink lol).

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Posted 27 March 2010 - 03:56 AM

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/C.../NOV-46501.html what about this?

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Posted 27 March 2010 - 06:17 AM

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/C.../NOV-46501.html what about this?



If your trying to spend as little as possible , but have ok performance then buy a ATI HD 4670 or Nvidia 9600GT(a little bit faster then the ATI HD 4670 , but usually $10-$20 more ).

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 01:44 AM

The Radeon HD 4650 requires 400W to operate, the 9600 GT requires 400W also. If you are still using the same power supply that came with the Dell, you will not be able to operate these cards. If it is a slimline case, you may need a low profile card.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 04:22 AM

The Radeon HD 4650 requires 400W to operate, the 9600 GT requires 400W also. If you are still using the same power supply that came with the Dell, you will not be able to operate these cards. If it is a slimline case, you may need a low profile card.


The HD 4670 harldy takes any power , but 280 watts is a bit low ....

Is that a generic psu ?
I will look later for ya.


If i remember right , the 9600 GT uses more power then the HD 4670 , so it uses quite a bit more then the HD 4670.


If your getting the HD 4650 , then get the HD 4670 its more better and very close in price :thumbsup:

Edited by starcraftmaster, 28 March 2010 - 04:23 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2010 - 12:24 AM

According to Sapphire's page for the 4670, a 400W power supply is required. Since all cards within a given series are so similar, all other 4670's will also need 400W regardless of manufacturer. Also, Sapphire's page for the 4650 lists 400W as well. You will need a very old card that draws little power, but won't help you one bit in terms of framerates, or you can upgrade your power supply and by a new card.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 05:52 AM

yer but HD 4670 still hardly uses any power.

It needs no connector , it runs from the power from the PCI E slot.
But like i said , 280 watts(Don t know if its a generic) is low.




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