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#1 90awdturbo

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 04:48 PM

Hey guys,
So I'm trying to put together my next build and cannot decide whether to go with Amd or Intel. I'm looking for a quad processor, ddr3, great motherboard w/raid, good value, while being relatively top of the line. I also like to overclock, I know the i7's are better for this however they are a pretty penny and I'm not completely convinced it's worth it. Suggestions?
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 06:34 PM

Intels make a solid chip, however I feel they are overpriced. they will outperform AMDs chips, but in all honestly, not enough in my mind to be worth the extra money. AMD makes a good, quality CPU, for much less, and if you get a black edition, they should overclock like none other. This is AMDs best chip out there http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103692 while this is intels http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115212 you can see the price difference there. and keep in mind the high end intel motherboards run 250-300 dollars while a good high performance AMD board will run you less then 200. I typically use AMD for most of my builds, even my performance gaming rigs and they do the job rather well. Ive used the new i7s, and I like them, but theyre not worth the extra $$ to me, so its really a personal preference thing. Saving money on the CPU could mean you can spend more on say, a high end video card, more ram, or even a better motherboard. just tome things to think about.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 09:11 PM

Well said, I appreciate your input. You described my opinion's on the i7's to the T. Like you said I know they outperform AMD slightly but for just about twice the price it's hard to justify. I've been looking at the AMD 955 on Newegg which is only $160 and from my understanding is the same chip as the 965 just 200mhz under-clocked. Does it seem legit saving $25 and just overclocking it?
What's your opinion on the AMD Phenom II 720? Any idea what the chances are at unlocking the 4th core and with success is it as fast as the quads if running the at the same clock speed?
Also I was wondering if anyone knew when Nvidia is going to release there new video cards? I've been wanting to grab 1 or 2 5770's but am hesitant due to a possible price drop.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 11:04 PM

as far as the difference between the 955 and the 965, yes you could probably overclock it 200 mhz and get the same performance. theyre the same basic architecture. You might be able to have a slightly higher max overclock with the 965 but probably not a huge difference, and it probably wouldn't hurt anything to use the 955. theyre both black editions which means they both have the unlocked multiplier. As far as unlocking the fourth core on the 720, I don't think Id advise it. first I wouldnt even know where to start in how to unlock it, your technically not supposed to. Ive heard you can, but its difficult, and can cause damage, and if its anything like the phenom Is unadvisable. with the phenom 1s, what happened was the original phenom quad core had a stepping problem between the third and fourth core, so AMD ended up with a lot of quads returned and/or unsellable, so to solve it they basically disabled that fourth core and resold it, and they worked fantastically as triple core CPUs. if you unlocked that fourth core, you brought back that stepping problem. To my knowledge, the phenom II never had that problem, and theyre selling it because of how well the triple core phenoms did for people who wanted more power then a dual but couldnt afford a quad, but its still possible that unlocking that fourth core could bring more problems then its worth. Id just go with a quad to start with, even if you unlock that 4th core and have no problems, if it comes unlocked its a lot less hassle and won't void the warranty (unlocking the fourth core voids the warranty if I do believe) I would just stick the quad core route, if you cant afford the 955 or 965 just find a lower priced quad.

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