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Started by k-man , Feb 24 2010 07:49 PM

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#1 k-man

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:49 PM

Hello,

Currently I'm building a computer and I want to get a Antec 1200 case, Antec CP-1000 power supply, and ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 motherboard. I'm worried that the MB wont fit with such a huge PSU. Is there anyway that some one could tell me if the MB and PSU will fit and not mess anything up? I've spent the past 3~ hours looking at websites to figure this out, and I can't. So I'm asking for your help. Below are the links to the items.

Also I would like to know what you guys think about my build and if there is anything I can improve on or if something wont work/not compatiable that I don't see.

Thanks~
Kman

Case:
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=Njkz
MB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131398
Power Supply:
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MjEyMA==
Video:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130493
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103727
Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820104124
HD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136317
Disk Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827118030

Edited by k-man, 24 February 2010 - 08:25 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:45 PM

I foresee no problems there, in fact on newegg the very first review of the power supply said it fits best with the antec 1200. with a smaller, mid atx case like the antec 900 you may have a problem, but the 1200 is designed for a PSU of that size, it can use a regular sized PSU, and it also has a pop out to accomodate a larger size PSU, and being a full ATX case there should be enough room to fit everything else and still drive a pickup through, and the rest of your build looks good to. Have fun :thumbsup:

Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit.

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:54 PM

Thank you! I was just curious because I know it says the PSU fits in the case and was made for it, but it doesn't specify what MB's fit. I was worried that the MB might hit the PSU. Also do you think I would have a problem with the video card and the PSU?

Edited by k-man, 24 February 2010 - 09:06 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:26 PM

not at all as you see in these photos http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...9-043-_-Product everything mounts above the PSU. That case is a full ATX form factor-like I said in my previous post you should be able to fit all of that in that case plus drive a truck through it. Its a huge case. The PSU mounts on the botton everything else mounts above it.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:33 PM

Thank you again, I'm just worried about wasting money and having the issue of it hitting the PSU since its not a normal size.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:30 PM

That looks like a good build, however, be aware that the motherboard you have chosen does not use SLI with Nvidia cards. Besides, for the same price, you can get the HIS H587F1GDG Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB which will outperform the GTX 280. Also, your motherboard is dual channel with two banks of two slots for a total of four, but the RAM kit you have chosen is three sticks. I suggest buying the Patriot Gamer Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600. You can get one kit with 4GB of RAM, or two of those kits for 8GB. Don't forget, you need a 64-bit operating system like Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit as you cannot reuse an old copy of Windows unless it is a full, boxed retail version due to licensing restrictions.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:09 PM

Thank you for your feedback, as for the SLI - I'm aware and I don't plan on using the feature. As for the video card I really don't like ATI cards and if I were to get it, it would put me over my budget of $1400(with shipping) and with the sticks of RAM you linked to me(Thank you by the way), it puts me just below $1400. That is also including Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit which I forgot to link in my build.

Call me stupid but what is the difference between DDR3 1800 and DDR3 1600?

Edited by k-man, 25 February 2010 - 03:13 PM.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 06:02 PM

I've never understood favoritism when it comes to technology brands. Unless there is a huge quality issue, most of the brand loyalty stuff is mostly marketing inspired. The price quoted on the 5870 was a 24-hour special, alternatively you could get the POWERCOLOR AX5850 1GBD5-MDHG Radeon HD 5850 1GB. This card is about 80% to 85% as powerful as the 5870, which is still more powerful than a GTX 280, but costs $100 less than the 5870 and still comes with DirectX 11 and EyeFinity which Nvidia cards do not have. Here's one review of it, another, another, and another. I do think it warrants a closer look instead of being vetoed just because it is ATI. The difference between DDR3-1800 and 1600 is speed, which isn't that much. Not all motherboards take the very fast RAM, those that do often must have a setting changed to allow it to run at, what the motherboard considers, overclocked speeds.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:16 PM

well DJB does bring out a point, if you want to go NVIDIA you really should find a SLI board-even if you dont currently plan on using it that way, in the future, ites easier to upgrade if you so choose. if you go crossfire, and you decided that you do for some reason want to go with a dual card solution-you will have to purchase 2 whole new cards. and the difference is ram is 1800 is 200 mhz faster then 1600.

Edited by the_patriot09, 25 February 2010 - 08:16 PM.

Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit.

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:17 AM

I agree with Pace about the video card. ATI has got it going on with video cards right now...why not get something more powerful for less $$$. But it's your money and if you want NVIDIA then get it.

One thing I would change - get a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822152185

They are the best out right now...they are faster, cooler, and quieter than the WD Cavier...oh and a little cheaper.

You can get it here for $75 after MIR http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...odlist=celebros

Edited by Shawshankya, 27 February 2010 - 10:21 AM.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:19 AM

Another thing, why do you need a 1000W PSU? Seems like a lot of power wasted to me. Especially if you aren't planning on using 2 video cards with SLI/XFIRE

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 01:44 AM

I agree with Shaw, the only reason to use a 1000W is in a multi-GPU setup, otherwise it is wasted power. Another suggestion, it is usually not a good idea to put everything on a single drive. If the drive fails or you get a virus that decimates the drive, you will probably find yourself both without an OS and all your data. It is best, if you have the cash, to split your hard drives. A smaller drive holds the OS and your apps and a larger drive holds your data, such as music, video, and text files. That way if one drive fails, you at least have something left. I have a Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB ($79 with free shipping and no rebates). I like it, I have tons of media and I can't even fill one past half capacity.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 02:09 AM

Sorry for not responding in a while. Since it has been brought up, what would you guys recommend for a PSU wattage for both the Nvidia and the ATI cards? I'm just afraid of being under-powered and something going wrong. Also I've been considering the ATI card, but I don't know what I'm going to be doing yet :thumbsup:

. As for a back up I have a external that I back up every 2 weeks or so, in-case that ever happens.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 02:46 AM

oh, I tend to put 750-800 watt PSUs in most of my gaming rigs to allow for future expansion, but in all reality all youd really need would be around a 600 watt. Just make sure its a good quality PSU and theres plenty of amperage on the +12v rails, +36 amps minimum I would say. Prolly dont NEED that much, but better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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