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#1 Reaver

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 04:05 AM

Hello, I am planning on building my first computer, but I still have some qualms about the parts. I'll be using this computer for mainly multitasking, some gaming, and videos. I am on a budget of around 400-450 dollars. First, I'll tell you what I don't need (I think) to replace:I plan on taking parts out of my old Compaq (link to it next to "case", and I was hoping that the case would be big enough. It seems like a mid size case, but I don't exactly know) and just putting the new ones in.

Here are the parts I plan on buying (All taken from Tigerdirect.com)I also plan on buying thermal paste, but more explanation on the paste, and what it does, would be much appreciated.
Also, can you tell me if the motherboard I'm buying has enough connectors for 1 or 2 case fans (80-120mm)?
Any suggestions at all will help me a lot, and also suggestions for any other items I might need that I don't have (anti-static wrist wrap, screws, tools, or anything else).

Thank you very much, and I appreciate the help.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 05:14 AM

eeek stay away from ECS boards theyll fail on you faster then a bunny can hop. This board, while its only a micro atx and is 10 dollars more will last you longer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128342 and if you really want the full atx form factor go this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128392 it is a little pricier, but what I recomend to people is NEVER skimp on the motherboard or the PSU. if your going to skimp, buy cheaper or simply less ram, smaller hard drive or CPU, you can upgrade those later but the power supply and the motherboard is the backbone of your system do not skimp on those. on that note, here is a much better PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817341017 and its only 50 bucks after rebate. as far as the rest of the system goes, for a ATI video card I would strongly recomend a Saphire card like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817341017 over xfx.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 05:20 AM

Oh and looking at that case, I believe its only a micro ATX case which means the first board I showed you, the micro ATX board is the only one that fits. Also, CPU cooler if it is not made for a AM2+ CPU will not work, and that old of a computer im betting it wont. That CPU your ordering may come with a heatsink but Im not sure it doesnt say one way or another, in any case heatsinks arnt to expensive you can get them for $10-15 at newegg, just make sure you get some good thermal paste to go with it.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 05:22 AM

Hey thepatriot09,
Thanks for responding. I was curious as to what wattage I would need for a build like mine, with the current parts or the ones that you suggested.
Thanks again,
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 05:32 AM

What do you think of this board? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...&CatId=2320

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 06:27 AM

wattage from your PSU you wanted was fine, I just dont know anything about coolmax, and quite frankly Ive found most PSUs less then 30 bucks dont hold up to any kind of sustained abuse. maybe for a every day computer, but even then. OCZ is a good brand PSU and should last forever, I typically trust Coolermaster, Antec, Corsair, and OCZ PSUs. as far as that motherboard is concerned, it should be a decent quality motherboard, though probably will not outperform the gigabyte one I posted. I typically trust both Gigabyte and ASUS boards for anything performance, and Biostar if your not doing any gaming or the like. I notice your using tigerdirect-reputable seller, but why not newegg? they got a bit better selection when it comes to parts, particularly AM2 motherboards right now.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:00 PM

Haha, I originally was going to buy from Newegg, but I found everything I needed on Tigerdirect, and plus, Tigerdirect doesn't charge tax :thumbsup:
I was thinking to just buy the gigabyte motherboard on Newegg, and to buy a good 50-70 dollar psu. So before I commit, is there anything else I need to know or any other compatibility issues?
Thanks,
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:13 PM

newegg doesnt charge tax either. . not in the US anyway but it dont matter if you found what you want on tiger direct thats great. the hard drive, is it IDE or is it SATA? the motherboard I believe is set up for both, however, there is only one IDE channel on it so if you have a IDE CD drive and hard drive, you may have difficulty plugging them both into the same ribbon depending on how the case is set up and how long the ribbon is.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 10:53 PM

TigerDirect and Newegg charge tax in certain states where they have some kind of physical presence. Looking at your parts list, I can say that the PC you are going to be building is an older mid-range PC. I would go for newer parts so you can more easily upgrade later. For $400 it is decent. Remember, you also need to repurchase Windows due to licensing restrictions.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:58 AM

Hi, and thanks for the comments. I have updated some of my parts, and so I will list them here.
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 02:26 AM

that PSU might be a little weak with that video card, and I dont know if that CPU is actually an upgrade or not-yes its got a faster clock speed, but one less core, and the phenom is a slightly better architecture. course the faster speed may even it out but Im not sure. I have used both the athlon and phenom line CPUs and liked both however.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 10:17 PM

You, technically, could get away with that power supply but it would be better if you had a greater margin. A 500W PSU would be best. I suggest getting an AM3-only motherboard instead of the AM2/AM2+/AM3 hybrid boards. This will be little more expensive, but it is newer. The Athlon II's are a different architecture based off the Phenom II, but they are designed to be low-cost. I would go with the following motherboard, CPU, and RAM.

Motherboard: MSI GF615M-P33 - This is a microATX board that is inexpensive but has all the features of an AM3-only system. If you are going with a full ATX case, I would get the MSI 760GM-E51, it is inexpensive but has plenty of features.

RAM: OCZ PC3-10666 Platinum RAM 2x2GB - All AM3-only motherboards require DDR3 RAM, which is a little more expensive than DDR2. If you want to save money, you can go for 2GB with the Crucial 2GB PC10600 DDR3 1333MHz, but the price difference isn't that major.

CPU: Unless you are running high-end games that take advantage of all four cores, a quad core CPU may be overkill. With AMD, the Phenom II CPU's are where most of the power is whereas the Athlon II's are designed for budget or mainstream PC's. That said, I suggest either the AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz or the AMD Athlon II X2 255 Regor 3.1GHz. TigerDirect, in addition to being a disorganized mess, also doesn't have a wide array of CPU's unlike Newegg. Those two CPU's are very similar, but the Phenom will absolutely outperform the Athlon. The Phenom II is also Black Edition making overclocking very easy.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 08:06 PM

Hey guys,
I already ordered the parts, and I stuck with almost everything except for the psu (and like 1 or 2 other things), which I upgraded to a 500w Ultra. I found out that the video card I'm getting (HIS Radeon HD 5670 Video Card - 512MB DDR5, PCI-Express 2.0, CrossFireX, DVI, VGA, HDMI) does NOT need a psu, as it runs off the juice on the mobo. Very cool. Thanks for the help, and if I ever need help, then I'll know where to go :thumbsup:
Thanks again
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:39 PM

well, to be more specific, it doenst need a PCI_E connector from the PSU, the only way it wouldnt need a PSU is if it were somehow battery powered ;) just make sure you watch the amperage on the PSU you get because its still important.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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