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#1 the_patriot11

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 02:58 AM

Alright guys I think I may have the answer to this one, but was wondering if perhaps someone here may see something I dont. My brother ordered this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128362 from newegg and combined it with a 3.2 ghz I7 and 8 gigs of this memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220434. Here is the problem were having is the board is supposed to recognize up to 2100 mhz ram, and as you can see thats 2000 mhz ram, thats supposed to run at 1.65v with 8-8-8-24 timings yet the board stock, only runs it at 1.5v at 1066 mhz at 7-7-7-14 timings. There is a extreme performance chip in the memory thats supposed to set the timings, voltages, and speed on the board automatically on boards that support that feature which this board does, yet when I do, and save and reboot, the system continually reboots-turns on for about 2 seconds, shuts off, turns on again, and so on, until we reset the CMOS. we then tried adjusting the settings manually. I can set the voltage up to 1.65v fine, boots stable, but if I try to increase the frequency, it does the continual loop again. We also have tried rebooting the BIOS to no avail. I personally think its a bad board, but what do you guys think? something Im missing?

Oh and if it matters, its currently using a Visiontech 4670 (new card on the way) and a kingwin 800 watt PSU.

Edited by the_patriot09, 15 February 2010 - 03:00 AM.

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 10:23 AM

Are you running 8 gigs of RAM on a 3 channel board? Memory in white slots only. You have "Enable Extended Memory Timings enabled in BIOS?

http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/Core...12.12_(ENG).pdf

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The XMP profile doesn't tweek all of the timings. You sometimes have to go in and loosen up tRAS and tRFC as well. Are you bumping up your CPU speed or just swapping mem bus/QPI dividers? Have you tried just one stick at a time? Trying to run memory at that speed (2000) is going to weed out the weak really guickly.

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:04 PM

no Im running them in the first 4 slots per the instructions. The instruction manual said that if were only running 2 or 4 modules to pair them in the first 2 to 4 slots depending on how many modules were running, to only set them up in triple channel if using 3 or 6 sticks of ram. and it recognizes all 4 sticks in windows-if we let it run at 1066 mhz it boots up fine and runs stable. I will try to move the modules around however and see if that makes a difference. I did try to set the auto one up and then manually tweak the Tras since it was off but it still did the same thing. we didnt try to move the CPU speed up-were not trying to overclock the machine but rather get the hardware to run at the advertised speed that both parts claim to be compatible. I dont remmeber seeing a enable extended memory timings option in the BIOS but now that you mention it that may be the problem-will get back to you if we find it and it works. Im pretty sure I didnt set that.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 08:43 PM

If you read the fine print, your memory might not run at advertised speed (XMP) with more than one stick/channel. Drop that extra stick, run one stick/channel and see what happens. You have to have the stars aligned just right and a pure soul to run more than one stick/channel at that speed.

Edited by dpunisher, 15 February 2010 - 08:44 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 10:40 PM

well looks like it may in fact be the board-we moved the memory around to do triple channel-and it booted up for 2 seconds shut off, and now wont even turn on. I tested the PSU in another system and its fine, and Im going to check the ram in another system, but it looks like the problem was indeed the motherboard. going to play with it a little but looks like a RMAs in order.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 05:04 AM

update, got it running again. Have only 3 sticks in in triple channel, been playing with it. there is no bios option available to enabled extended memory, and its the latest variant of the BIOS. I did try testing how high it would go and boot, and according to the BIOS it will run up to 1800 mhz however once I get into the OS and check it using CPU-Z and easy tune its still registered as only running at 1066 mhz. Im at my wits end Im just going to tell him to RMA the board and hope the replacement works, the board had decent reviews, but most of the negative ones Ive read involve memory issues so Im going to assume thats it.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:46 AM

With the CPU loaded, what does your mem/CPU speed show? You can disable the power saving features in the BIOS to run everything at full speed to double check your settings. I have the EX58-UD4P and there is a EXTREME MEMORY PROFILE (XMP) option right above the memory setting/timing options.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:10 PM

ya this board has that to-unfortunatly when I use it it causes it to do the endless loop cycle. I dont believe I have the power saver feature engaged, but Ill check into that.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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