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#1 GaryGranath

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 02:47 PM

Of course I can't find it again, but I was scanning a forum recently and found a link to a registry cleaning app and the name in the link started with "bleepingcomputer..." So I concluded that someone at bleepingcomputer thinks the target app is effective for cleaning up a Windows XP Home SP3 registry.

I followed the link to the vendor's site and was able to do a free registry scan and fix 15 problems. I'd like to buy that registry cleaner (or another that anyone may recommend) to further examine my registry and fix a couple of specific problems.

There are three apps that I had on my system for which remnants of their existence must be in my registry. Because if I go to Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs, and locate the entries for those apps and I try to remove them I get a message that the uninstall program either doesn't exist or isn't a valid uninstallation file. I'd like to get rid of them so I can reinstall a related app without a known obstacle to a successful install.

I've apparently made some progress because at first both apps indicated a size in MB in the list, but now neither does.

Can someone recommend an app to maintain my registry?
Thanks Very Much, GG

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:55 PM

There is no application to maintain the registry.

This forum (and most reputable computer forums) has never condoned, let alone suggest...the use of any registry cleaner. An example of what I mean follows.

Should I Use A Registry Cleaner - http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

I think you may have misread a link or whatever it is you think you saw.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:06 PM

As hamluis has stated BleepingComputer does not recommend registry cleaners.

Here is the 'official' response for that:

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:18 PM

Perhaps the OP misread and is referencing ERUNT for backing up the registry.

Or CCleaner which includes a registry cleaner which BC does not endorse the use of either.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 05:22 PM

I shouldn't have used the word "maintain." I should have used the more specific word "edit." And I shouldn't have used the word "app." I should have used "software." And I knew before I posted my question that many proficient computer folks would raise cries of protest. I was already well aware that many think the products that claim to be able to bless your registry, speed up your PC, whiten your teeth, and sweeten your breath are trash. I don't believe all the hype either. But I posted anyway. So there. A little excitement can be good for the heart. Let's see a smile. It was good for you.

Now, can someone tell me a better way to notify Windows XP that two entries in the installed software list in Control Panel | Add/Remove Software list shouldn't really be there, and to delete them? That's all I ask.

If the cause of my symptom is a couple of lines in the registry, I know enough to be extremely careful when editing it. I merely want a quality piece of software to tell me what it thinks shouldn't be in my registry. I don't want to use a piece of carp (sp). I will take it from there, create a backup, delete only the entry or two that could possibly cause my symptom, and if I don't get the desired results I'll restore everything and try to get over it.
Thanks, GG

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 05:33 PM

If you're 200% sure, you uninstalled some program and it's still listed in Add\Remove, sometimes, it happens.
Add/Remove program cleaner: http://www.intelliadmin.com/index.php/downloads/ (toward the bottom of the page) will fix it for you.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 05:56 PM

Well...no one said that users should not be capable of doing registry edits...but registry edits do not have to be performed by someone else's perception (without seeing it) of what should be snipped and removed from your original install of XP.

Just as there are varying levels of users...there are varying ways of performing registry edits. I mean edits, where the user can have some idea of what is being done and why.

There are all sorts of reputable "tweaks" available to users....we all recommend some of them from time to time, as an easy way of getting something resolved that would otherwise be complicated and time-consuming.

Using these developed "tweaks" and programs...is not the same as using a "registry cleaner", IMO.

One is brainless, while the other has been given thought.

One has known, previously surveyed consequences, while the other is a very big unknown.

There are any number of known registry edits that will take care of the situation that you describe. Google is the method for finding easy, safe ways to do such things, IMO...while understanding what a registry cleaner...is not.

And...finally, there is the manual method of editing the registry...for those with the understanding of what the registry is and the harm that can be done by treating it in a casual manner. Lots of documentation available on such.

Louis

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 08:11 PM

Thank you all. I'll do some intelligent (I hope - I used to have more confidence that I'm intelligent) investigating and tweaking.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 09:10 PM

One of BC's tutorials, How To Manually Remove Programs From The Add/Remove List:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/tutorial77.html
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 09:53 PM

Another thanks! This is really a super site for expert assistance. Thanks all!
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