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Computer building n00b. Help me build the cheapest, best computer I can!


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#1 Voomek

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 12:33 PM

Hi all! I've just signed up for this sight, and I'm hoping you guys can help me out.

I need you to help me build a computer that can play WoW... on Ultra-High while getting 60+ FPS in 25-Man Raids. This is quite a hefty challenge for a computer, and my current computer certainly can't handle it. I don't want to just upgrade, because this would need a new processor, motherboard, memory... just about everything. Not only that, it's a family computer, and inhibits me from playing when I want to.

So here's what i have so far...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...3-727-_-Product

That's it. If you guys could help me build the cheapest, fastest, best computer, around that processor, I would be very greatful. I know nothing about how to build one, and would love some help if I could get it.

Thanks!

(PS: Budget is ranging from $750-1000, without the monitor, keyboard, sound system, etc...)

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#2 Vaerli

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:23 PM

Here's what I would recommend-

Case- (Doesn't really matter if you go for this. I just wish on my first one I wouldn't have gotten it with blue LCDs, they aren't that special after a few weeks. Go for one more expensive if you like it better, this is just a basic one.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811147074
30$

Motherboard-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813130233
95$

Power supply-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817182030
50$

Memory-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220435
95$

Hard Drive-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136319
75$

Graphics card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814150438
200$

Processor-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA
190$

Adds up to 735$. Of course, assuming you'll want a nicer case, and shipping, it might head up to around 800$.

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#3 Voomek

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:48 PM

I like the idea for a cheap, simple case. It works for me. I'm not looking for flash, just something that can really run it.

Are you sure that the graphics card and memory will be able to run it that high with all those particle effects?


Edit: Edited to remove unnecessary quote. ~ tg

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 06:27 PM

Going for 60 FPS in WoW, its pretty much guaranteed, but the 25 man raid part, is debatable.

I'd say this RAM then- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231223

And if you think its worth it- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...7-471-_-Product

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#5 Voomek

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:56 PM

Is there any way you can make it a LITTLE cheaper than that?


Edit: Edited to remove unnecessary quote. ~ tg

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 10:18 PM

Let me have a crack at this, I may be able to help here too.

Case: NZXT BETA EVO Classic Series CS-NT-BETA-EVO - I got this since it is a simple mid tower with inexpensive shipping. $59 (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

Motherboard: ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - This is a simple, cheap motherboard that can handle AMD's AM3 CPU's, DDR3-1600 RAM, and Crossfire. If you buying this PC for Crossfire capabilities, you may want an AMD motherboard that uses a 790FX chipset instead of a 770, but those boards are much more expensive. I suggest staying away from MicroATX motherboards for desktop PC's as they are more compact and are a little more difficult to keep cool. $59

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz - Since you're gaming, I suggest at least a dual core CPU with a clock speed of 2.8GHz. or better. This is a fast dual-core CPU. WoW is not optimized for triple or quad core CPU's, and barely for dual core, so spending more on those may not be beneficial. This CPU, like all of AMD's Black Edition CPU's, has the multiplier unlocked which means easy overclocking. If you really want to have a quad core system, the AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz ($112) is also a good choice. Keep in mind that the architecture between the Athlon II and the Phenom II do differ. The Phenom II's are designed for more high performance tasks and will beat an Athlon II CPU if they both have the same number of cores and an equal clock speed. $99

Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB - This is in the latest generation of ATI's Radeon graphics cards. It has roughly the same speed of a Radeon 4890, but is smaller, produces less heat, requires less energy, has DirectX 11 capabilities, and EyeFinity. This card is not as large as a 4890 and does not need to be in a full ATX tower case to run. A Radeon 58xx series card for WoW is overkill IMO, it is several years old after all. $164 (Before $10 mail-in rebate)

Power Supply: Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W - This can easily handle a setup such as this. $59 (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - More than enough RAM for most users. All AMD motherboards use dual channel memory with two banks of RAM each allowing for two sticks for four RAM sticks total. As such, it is a waste of money to buy a three stick RAM kit. Also, WoW is, to the best of my knowledge, not 64-bit and thus cannot take advantage of more than about 3GB to 3.5GB of RAM anyway. $99

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB 32MB Cache SATA - Plenty of space. $54

Optical Drive: LG 22X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH22LS50 LightScribe Support - You need a basic drive. This one can read and write to most optical media. $28

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - You need a 64-bit OS to use 4GB or more of RAM. $104

Grand Total: $722 (Before rebates)

Edited by DJBPace07, 24 January 2010 - 10:24 PM.

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#7 Voomek

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 06:44 PM

Right now I've got an Athlon 64 LIVE! Processor. It's awful, and I know a big upgrade I want is a very powerful processor, because WoW is very processor reliant. The graphics of the new dungeons and Northrend are pretty good, and it's getting a graphics overhaul with Cataclysm.

Would all of that be compatible with the processor I mentioned?

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 07:16 PM

The processor you posted is plenty for WoW. Even at full settings, my Q6600 intel processor, which is a generation older doesn't even max out on full settings in WoW. The problem is my graphics card. It's been overheating(gets warm and automatically downclocks), and I really need to invest in an aftermarket cooler.

The processor will seem flawless compared to your old one.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 08:28 PM

Well yes, I knew that, but I was speaking of the parts the person above me mentioned.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 03:26 PM

Any current generation CPU will seem like a major step up from an Athlon 64 LIVE! processor. Both of the system configurations I and Vaerli mentioned are complete systems, the only difference is mine contains the operating system and is reflected in the price. WoW is not a true multi-core capable game, as in designed from the ground up with it in mind. A dual core with a high clock speed will be more economical, and practical, than a slower quad core since the game probably will not use cores three and four.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:41 PM

However, the processor I noted is 3.2 ghz and easily overclockable.




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