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want to build a PC but need your thoughts/opinions


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#1 CallMeTy

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:40 AM

well here we are,....i want to build a computer. ill be done with my car audio soon(well once i move to houston in feb) and im already looking for a new project. but i dont know a whole lot about it. well i dont know what is compatible with what. so i found this site on yahoo hoping that someone (or everybody lol) can help me out. so here are the facts or the "must haves" if you will,

1) the thing has to look cool, im thinking some kind of black tower or silver w/ blue and green leds. (this is all just cosmetics for my liking) but i know ive heard of i5 and i7 cases before but i dont know who makes them or what they look like.

2) it needs to be quiet and run cool, had one computer that ran loud as hell, i cant do that no more

3) i really want to get back on WOW but i definately want it to run smoothly with no lag. i tried playing wow on my laptop and it was alright until i hit a mjaor city or port then everything jjuuuuuuuuusssssstttttt slllllloooooooowwwww doooooowwwwwnn. so i stopped playing it. This will probably be the only serious game i play on it.

4) i want to build something that has room for expansion later, i dont want to pack everything in and then want to add something later but cant

5) even though WOW might be the only game i play i still want the graphics to look sweet. hopefully ill be able to build something where i can watch dvd from the computer on the flat screen

6) i burn cds every so often.

so what yall think guys can you help me out, i dont know good brands from bad brands so i need a mentor with this stuff, lol

oh i forgot budget, im guessing somewhere around 1200 give or take
i like this case but i dont know if it fits my needs: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/se...89&csid=_21

Edited by CallMeTy, 23 January 2010 - 12:22 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2010 - 12:46 PM

that case would work pretty well-tell me are you interested in a INTEL PC or a AMD machine? does your budget need to include a monitor? because the I5 and I7 arnt cases, theyre processors, and they tend to be very expensive. for a 1200 dollar budget I think I would recomend an AMD build. decent AMD system:

motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128416 $140

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103727 $190

memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220433 $190

Video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102857 $300

Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817371026 $110 ($90 after rebate)

CD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827136177 $27.00

lets throw in a Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824254039 $150

with the case you chose comes out to right at 1200 before shipping. all the parts are good quality and should work together. :D

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:11 PM

Between the 2 of you it looks like a good build to me. I've always been partial to Gigabyte boards and AMD chips. I like the case, I own an Apevia and am happy with it. I wonder if you might be happier with a full tower instead of a mid tower, due to the (I think) better air flow for cooling. And more space to get things done inside.. :thumbsup:
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:29 PM

I thought amd systems run slower. What's the difference between the two (AMD and Intel) and yea after looking around more I think I do prefer a full size tower. I figure if I'm going to build one, then I might as well make it look badass though.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:48 PM

That setup you suggested patriot is that good at multitasking you think? What about media? I'm constantly on net with different windows pulled up. Do you think I need to bump it up to 1500 budget wise. Its just when you say "decent amd system" I get nervous

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:55 PM

depends on what you do. for graphics editing and massive multi tasking, Intel definetly has AMD beat. However, I find in my esperience AMDs faster bus speed and more efficient use of cache make video gaming a little better (in my opinion, some will argue) however, what AMD does definetly have intel beat in, is price. to get a CPU that will beat the one I recomended you will likely spend twice that on the CPU alone, plus at least 300 bucks on a comparable intel board your talking a wad of cash, and with a decent video card probably 1500-2000 dollars for a build-before a monitor. while an AMD system will do everything you need it to for 1200.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:57 PM

oh and by decent, I mean pretty good-AMD wise that is the best AMD quad out there right now, with a excellent board with the 790 chipset-which is the best AMD chipset out there. the only way you could really improve that system is by adding more memory or another video card. graphics, you can spend 400 bucks on the 5870, or spend another 200 on another 5850 and crossfire the two. but that system is a beast-I just did a build similar to that and its blazing fast.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:34 PM

you also need an operating system

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:43 PM

thats a good point ray-thankyou I totally forgot about that. yes an OS. you can get windows 7 starting out at around $100 bucks, though this one would probably suit your needs a little more. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116758 total cost ought to be around 1500 after shipping.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:08 PM

im sorry it took me so long to respond back, im just getting back home. whats different about windows 7 for system builders, ive never seen "for system builders" before and i worked at officemax for a year. at the end of the day i can only take you guys' word for my build cuz my knowledge is so limited. but as far as cases go what are some good ones for full towers? im thinking maybe something with two fans. as of now i think i want to roll with the coolermaster HAF 932.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 02:38 AM

OEM-or for system builders, is basically an OS that per copyright, is supposed to be installed on a brand new system, and only used for that model of system. when you buy a pre made system from say HP they buy the OEM and put it on that computer, and then you buy the entire computer-its an OS that is actually designed for system builders to put on a computer and then resell. while the retail version can be bought by someone who already owns a computer, for his own personal computer, and I believe, (dont quote me on this) transfer to a new one if the old one fails.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 03:24 AM

The i7 processor is faster (I've heard), but the AMD that Patriot showed you is very fast also. As for cases, HERE is the case I own. It's kinda costly, but I like it. I bought another blue LED fan and installed it so it has more light in it. The only drawback I found to this case is the temp. indicators are in Celcius and can't be changed to Farenhiet. Oh, also the leads that I attached to the CPU and Video Card to monitor the temps, I had to purchase some thermal tape to keep it stuck to them. I tried duct tape, "the handy man's secret weapon", but it would not stay stuck..

Not saying you should buy the same case, but look around. There are other cases that have the clear sides. I almost bought one with flames on it, my wife said it was going overboard..
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:12 AM

Yea after sleeping on it I think I want to stick with the CM haf932. Its nice and big with a lot of space looks like and some nice features to it. The only thing is it has that red LED fan in the front but hey, ill live with it I gueSs. I actually can't wait to get this build going.I'm wondering if I should buy everything at one time or just get it piece by piece. How good is that monitor you suggested patriot?

after looking at the parts suggestions again, i dont see any hard drive.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:36 AM

im wondering if this one will make a good hdd:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

im looking for a fast hdd with a pretty good amount of space

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 03:26 PM

500 gigs, 32 mb cache, looks like a solid hard drive. the monitor I suggested is 21.5 inches viewable and has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080, a 15000:1 contrast ratio, 16.7 million colors and a 5 ms response time. Its not the absolute best monitor out there, but its not a bad one-Id say its a decent mid range monitor, bang for buck you really can't go wrong with it I dont think-though Ive never used one, if I were to buy one today in that price range it would probably be that one, though feel free to shop around, typically things to look for are A: native resolution (higher is better) B:response time (lower is better) contrast ration (higher is better), plus anything else your interested in. I needed a monitor I could hook multiple computers to-old and new, simultaneously, which is why I got one that also had a VGA and HDMI input on top of the DVI-D input. Currently, im using a viewsonic of the same size and very happy with it. oh, and refresh rate is something to look at to-higher is typically better. Also want to make sure to read any reviews of the product made by buyers, you can generally get a feel for its quality and any possibly problems you may have with it.

and your right there wasnt a hard drive in the parts I suggested which is weird I coulda sworn I picked one out, so either I somehow deleted it on accident or forgot to paste it in, sorry about that, however the drive I chose was similar to the one you had-in fact nearly identical but with a 16 mb cache instead of a 32, so the one you found is actually better then the one I was thinking of and didnt convey very well. I do apologize for that.

Edited by the_patriot09, 24 January 2010 - 03:27 PM.

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