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#1 arbiter2X

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 02:34 PM

Specs:

Operating System:Windows XP Professional
Processor : Pentium 4 1.70ghz
Memory : 352MB
motherboard :Shuttle
model : MV42
Power Supply : 200watts

Hello,
I'm having problems installing my video card.
Here's the brand name: Inno3d Geforce FX5500256mb agp.
After I place it on the AGP slot and plugging in my monitor on it, I can't seem to get my pc to boot up, I'm only seeing white screen on my monitor that says "Auto-Test".
All the fans on the mobo are running including the fan of the video card,
I can't also hear any beep sound from the motherboard.

It will only boot normally if I remove the video card from the agp slot.
Can't seem to tell where the problem comes from, can you please help me?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 03:37 PM

Have you enabled the AGP slot as the Primary Display Adapter in your BIOS setup?
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:47 PM

Make sure your motherboard has the correct voltage for the card!
Some video cards have a higher voltage rating than what the motherboard can supply. For example some mother boards can only run +1.5 volt cards. there are cards that require +3.3 volts.
Also I noticed your Power supply is rated for 200 watts. It may not have enough Power to run everything on your system.
A 500 Watt Power supply is the mininum I'd suggest.
Also make sure you have the latest BIOS for your Mother Board as a lot of times it helps support newer hardware which was released after your mother board's BIOS was burned.

Good Luck!!!
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 07:21 AM

I checked the BIOS after removing the card, There is no option to switch the primary display adapter to AGP, I can only select PCI and onboard. There's also no option to disable it. I haven't changed any BIOS settings yet since I don't know much about it.

About my AGP slot, I have an AGP 4x and I believe It's a universal AGP slot, since I see no spacer between on the slots.
1.5v slots have 41 pins before the spacer while 3.3v slots have 21pins before the spacer.
Am I right?

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 06:54 PM

I checked the BIOS after removing the card, There is no option to switch the primary display adapter to AGP, I can only select PCI and onboard. There's also no option to disable it.


Well, I'm guessing the motherboard automatically switches the display from onboard to AGP.

Anyway, looks like your PSU needs to be replaced.

Here are the card's requirements:

Minimum 250 Watt power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 18 Amps

If possible, try checking the GFX card on another system, to see if it works.

Edited by ReviverSoft, 14 January 2010 - 07:04 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 02:51 AM

I checked the sticker of my Power supply, the +12v only has 7amps of power.

I'll follow your advice and look for a new Power supply.

I'll post what happened after I tested it.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 01:57 PM

Hello,

I just got a new 600W PSU w/ 30 Amps on the 12V rail but it's still the same.
All fans running, but the pc is not booting.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:07 PM

I checked the sticker of my Power supply, the +12v only has 7amps of power.


And how long have you been using the FX 5500 card with that PSU?

I'm pretty sure it's dead but you might want to verify that, by connecting it on another PC.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:34 PM

It's my first time installing a video card to my computer.
The FX 5500 card is actually new, I just bought it last monday. I'm planning to return to the shop where I bought it so I can ask them to test it there today.
I also got rid of the old 200w power supply and replaced it with a new 600w one too.


Anyways here is the manual of my motherboard so you can advice me on what setting should be changed.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7JNNHMX3

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:47 PM

Above you said quote: "I checked the BIOS after removing the card, There is no option to switch the primary display adapter to AGP, I can only select PCI and onboard. There's also no option to disable it. I haven't changed any BIOS settings yet since I don't know much about it."

Are you looking in the right place in your BIOS setup?
If you are able to install an AGP card in the AGP port, then there should be an option to choose that option.

I am willing to help you.

You said you have a Shuttle MV42 PC and a inno3d Geforce FX5500 256Mb AGP card.

I will try looking at www.shuttle.com

I will try to locate a Pdf copy of your motherboard's manual and hopefully find in it "the BIOS settings" for add-on cards.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:35 PM

Ok thanks for the link!
It was a nightmare trying to find that manual on shuttle's web site. :thumbsup: LOL

I have your file, give me a bit of time to read through it.

I'll post back when I have an answer.

I'll have to also research the name inno3d as well, but Im sure the Nvidia web site lists that card's specs.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:49 PM

One thing I want to ask you is did you try installing the AGP drivers from the Shuttle CDrom before installing the card?
You might want to try that (using the on-board video card first) Then shutting down the PC and installing the AGP card. Then try starting up the PC again.

Below is a quote from your manual

Install Drivers & Software Components
Please note that all the system utilities and drivers are designed for Win
9x/2000/ME/NT operating systems only. Make sure your operating system
is already installed before running the drivers installation CD-ROM programs.
1. Insert the MV42/MV42N bundled CD-ROM into your CD-ROM drive.
The autorun program will display the drivers main installation
window on screen.
2. Choose "Install Mainboard MV42 Software" and complete it.
3. Choose "Install Mainboard MV42N Software" and complete it.
4. Choose "Install VIA Chipset Driver" and complete it.
5. Choose "Install Audio Driver" and complete it.
6. Choose "Install VGA Driver" and complete it.

I'll post back once I have every thing figured out.

Best regards for now.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 09:44 PM

OK here goes.
Below are lines I cut from your manual.

Note: Where I used repeated ///////////////// these I used to seperate my recommended suggested settings from the manuals options/////////////

Follow these instructions.

To enter the BIOS (Basic Input / Output System) utility, follow these steps:
Step 1. Power on the computer, and the system will perform its
POST (Power-On Self Test) routine checks.
Step 2. As you see the message "Hit F2 if you want to run setup.",
press <F2> key immediately.

Once you enter the AMIBIOS™ CMOS Setup Utility, the Main
Menu will appear on the screen. The Main Menu allows you to select
from several setup functions and two exit with 2 choices. Use the arrow keys
to select among the items and press <Enter> to accept and enter the
sub-menu.

In the menu using your arrow keys scroll and hi-lite where it says ADVANCED SETUP and hit ENTER.

look for the following

AGP Mode
This item provides the OnBoard VGA mode with three options of 1,2,
4 multiplied frequency.
The choice: 4X, 2X, 1X .

//////CHOOSE 4X and hit ENTER/////////

AGP Comp. Driving
Use this item to signal driving current on AGP cards to auto or manual.
Some AGP cards need stronger than normal driving current in order to
operate. We recommend that you set this item to the default.
The choice: Auto or Manual .

////////CHOOSE AUTO//////////

Manual AGP Comp. Driving
When AGP Driving is set to Manual, use this item to set the AGP
current driving value.
The choice: CB.

/////////When AGP comp is Auto this quote in book does not apply.///////////

AGP Aperture Size
This item defines an AGP for the graphics. Leave this item at the
default value 64MB.

//////////Leave at 64MB for now////////////////////

PCI /Plug and Play Setup

Plug and Play Aware O/S
Enable this item if you are using an O/S that supports Plug and Play
such as Windows 95 or 98.
The choice: Yes or No.

/////////Choose YES, because Windows 95----Windows 7 is PLUG & PLAY operating system//////////////////////

Share Memory Size
This item lets you allocate a portion of the main memory for the onboard
VGA display application with three options of 8/16/32MB.
The choice: 8MB,16MB,32MB or None.

/////////Choose 32MB/////////

Primary Graphics Adapter
This item indicates if the primary graphics adapter uses the PCI or the
AGP bus. The default AGP setting still lets the onboard display work
and allows the use of a second display card installed in an AGP slot.
The choice: Onboard or PCI.

/////////////////This one is important. NOTICE it states that the on-board video card always runs, even if you use an exspansion AGP card/////////////////
////////////////It is better to choose Onboard for this one. Your AGP card is activated by the settings you made above, so leave this setting at ONBOARD//////////////


Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA
If this item is enabled, an IRQ will be assigned to the PCI VGA graphics
system. You set this value to No to free up an IRQ.
The choice: Yes or No.
The choice: 4MB,8MB,16MB,32MB,64MB,128MB,256MB.

////////// Choose Yes........Then choose the size of your grapic cards listed memory size....under where it says 4mb, 8mb 16mb ect.////////////////


Try these settings and post back your results. By the way make sure you use the cdrom that came with your PC for the AGP drivers and VIA 4 in 1 drivers.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 04:06 AM

Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA
If this item is enabled, an IRQ will be assigned to the PCI VGA graphics
system. You set this value to No to free up an IRQ.
The choice: Yes or No.
The choice: 4MB,8MB,16MB,32MB,64MB,128MB,256MB.

////////// Choose Yes........Then choose the size of your grapic cards listed memory size....under where it says 4mb, 8mb 16mb ect.////////////////



Can you check this section on he manual? I'm sure I can't select what size I want to assign it.
The choice there is Yes or No only.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 04:34 AM

Allocate IRQ for PCI VGA
If this item is enabled, an IRQ will be assigned to the PCI VGA graphics
system. You set this value to No to free up an IRQ.
The choice: Yes or No.
The choice: 4MB,8MB,16MB,32MB,64MB,128MB,256MB.

////////// Choose Yes........Then choose the size of your grapic cards listed memory size....under where it says 4mb, 8mb 16mb ect.////////////////



Can you check this section on he manual? I'm sure I can't select what size I want to assign it.
The choice there is Yes or No only.



If you chose "YES" it will give you the options of selecting 4MB------256MB

By the way make sure once you do all this, hit the F10 key this will give you a reply from the BIOS "SAVE CONFIGURATION AND EXIT?" Chose "Y" or "Yes" The system will now reboot and hopefully if you have the monitor hooked up to the FX5500 card, you will get one system "beep" and your Windows XP Pro splash screen will appear.

Make sure you have the AGP drivers and VIA drivers installed from your motherboard CDROM installation disk. Make sure you choose the driver menu for your system if its MV42 or MV42n choose the right tab in the CD's list for your system.
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