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#1 brandontech23

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:15 AM



THIS IS ON VISTA SORRY!!!!

What is this, I can't even see anything except for this stuff...meaning I can't work on it realistically.

Happened: I was playing Perfect world international and minimized program, then went to put on Slacker Radio, went back to Perfect world Int. program and then my computer crashed out of the blue!

I went to manually turn off thinking that it could be easily fixed, but then I start up with these and the sad part is that I can't go to anything including safe-mode...so i cant do anything!

Is this a

1. Virus
2. Graphics Card (i checked my monitor/not that)
3. Hard-drive

What could this be!!!

I'm pretty worried because I don't know whats going on!
Mostly because I can't work on it.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:28 AM

It looks like either video card, or monitor problem.
Is it laptop, or desktop?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 08:27 AM

This is a desktop computer.

Velocity Micro promagix T1000 to be exact.

You think it could possibly be the video card, or monitor...how can you tell?

Ohhh and is there a way to work on my pc because I can't really see anything, my computer hardly starts (all these lines appear not the bios)

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:17 PM

Try THIS monitor with another working computer, or another monitor with THIS computer.
If the monitor checks out, most likely, we're dealing with video card problem.
Since, same thing happens in safe mode, it's NOT a driver problem, but the card itself.
Is it on-board video, or separate video card?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:29 PM

This is an external card evga 8500gt gddr3 512mb.

Yeah, the computer itself will not show anything except for this (no words or relative colors, completely random), would changing the graphics card possibly allow me to see the boot up and not the lines?

Should this be a hardware problem, should I contact a computer repair to do more inspection of the root of the issue?

You're sure that this is a hardware issue and not a virus? It would be much easier to work on this computer if I could at least see some text, but unfortunately, that isn't being displayed *only vertical and horizontal lines as shown in the attachments.* :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:39 PM

Did you?

Try THIS monitor with another working computer, or another monitor with THIS computer.


I assume, "external" was a typo? Separate card, inside your computer?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:22 PM

yes I did try a separate monitor, yes separate video card.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 04:47 PM

If another monitor displays same issues, then it looks like your video card is going south.
Try couple of things....
Get a can of compressed air.
Turn the computer off.
Open the case.
Clean everything well inside, especially all fans (use a pencil to prevent fans from spinning).
Remove video card. Put it back.
Start the computer.
Same problem?

If so, turn the computer off, remove the card.
Enter BIOS, re-enable on-board video, save settings and restart computer.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 05:47 PM

the onboard video sounds like a great idea, but i don't have a VGA outlet integrated to my motherboard.

Plus as i mentioned, i can't see anything including safe-mode and Bios (no text shows)

I'll try cleaning it though.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 05:54 PM

i don't have a VGA outlet integrated to my motherboard

Yeah, I've seen this stupid issue on some Dell model, where that space was taken by some sound card, or something...
Surely, you won't be able to see anything, since there is no on-board VGA jack, so you can't connect your monitor there.

If cleaning won't help, I guess, your only option is to buy a new card.
If you want to double check, I'd borrow a card from a friend and see for sure, that's the problem (before you spend any money).

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:29 PM

What I mean't by i can't see anything, I mean't that when I startup my computer, there's only lines and no words or text (thats why I can't go to the bios or safe-mode.

Could that issue still be related properly to the graphics card problem?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:41 PM

I understand, what you're saying, so....

If cleaning won't help, I guess, your only option is to buy a new card.
If you want to double check, I'd borrow a card from a friend and see for sure, that's the problem (before you spend any money).


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Posted 14 January 2010 - 09:24 AM

Thank you for the help.

This morning I kind of narrowed it down.*tell me if I mistaken an idea*

1.So I cleaned the computer as best as possible: same issue

2.reseated the graphics card: same issue

3.cleaned the graphics card as best as possible: same issue

4.tested the monitor with the VGA and DVI-D to VGA converter: same issue

5.CPU test: sounds like normal *1 quick beep as usual*

This morning I finally decide to leave the speakers on just to see and wait and I heard everything normal including the Vista welcome sound! So more or less it probably is the graphics card because even the weird colored lines portrayed the same colors as the vista welcome, bluish green sort of colors *just in pixels and lines though*

I'm going to talk to my cousin who I visit every weekend to see if I can borrow his Ati Radeon X700 pro that he has just laying around. Try it out and see if thats all I need.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 12:08 PM

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:02 AM

my video of the issue

Well just so you don't get confused about me personally when you watch my video...haha i'm just a kiddo, but trying to do my best with the basic knowledge of computers that i have.

Tell me what you think, I do still plan to swap the graphics card to see if any luck.

let me know if this is true* the I.T at my high-school told me that it probably isn't my motherboard because there really doesn't seem to be any problem starting up and apparently the bios is loading behind the lines which i can't see through*( he's more of a MAC specialist but does know a little about windows computers* : my question...could it also be the motherboard because some people say that it could be my motherboard...that would be bad too. I like to pretend it's the graphics card for now but i do need some reality in possibilities.

Tell what the worst *possible* thing that you think is causing this...unless you strongly believe it is the graphics card.




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