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Need Help Building a Decent Gaming Computer


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#1 Mysterio2004173

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Posted 19 December 2009 - 10:49 PM

Hello, I'm new to these forums and I need some help building a new gaming computer from scratch. I also want to keep it under 1000 if possible. I will be playing World of Warcraft mainly, which isn't that demanding. But, I also plan to play other games such as Modern Warfare 2 and Dragon Age: Origins. I'm not sure if these games need a very powerful system, but I know lag would be the worst thing on a fps! Well, I'm just looking for a nice build with a i7 processor, decent RAM, decent graphics, a decent hard drive and also it would be great if it was easily upgraded. So, please give me some advice on which parts I should get! Thanks!

Also, I have no experience building computers, or on computer parts.

Here is my list of parts so far:

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115214

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813121385

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119160

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136073

Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145260

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Posted 20 December 2009 - 02:42 AM

Welcome!

One of those games, Dragon Age, isn't very demanding at all on PC whereas the other one is. Given your price point, I suggest using AMD as you will get more for less cash. Below is a suggested parts list.

Case: Broadway Com Corp R-910 Black thick Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - A large full ATX case is useful if you plan on upgrading to the gigantic, and powerful, graphics cards like the 5780 or the 5970. $79

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD 790FX - This is a new motherboard. It allows for AMD's AM3 CPU's (the most recent kind), DDR3, CrossfireX, and USB 3.0. This motherboard uses the 790FX chipset which allows for full 16X speeds on two of the PCI-Express X16 slots. Usually, when a graphics card is Crossfired with another on a different AMD chipset, the two cards will go at half the data transfer speed, thus slowing down the GPU. This motherboard doesn't have that problem. $184

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz - AMD's best desktop processor. This is a Black Edition CPU which means the multiplier is unlocked, allowing for easy overclocking. The Phenom II series of CPU's can hold their own against the i7 and i5, to a point. The i7 dominates at the i7 950 or higher, which is the $500+ range of CPU's. $184

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - The motherboard can use DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600 RAM. Remember, you need a 64-bit operating system to use all 4GB. $94

Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB - This is in ATI's latest Radeon 5 series. Although this is a mid-range card, it handles all of the games you mentioned quite well. The 5850 is a step up from this, but is almost twice as expensive. The 5770 runs quiet and allows for DirectX 11. I toyed with the idea of scaling back many of the components in this list to add a 5850 to your PC. But I decided not to since you should have a powerful core group of components with a powerful motherboard, CPU, and power supply, and then add a GPU on top. Also, GPU's go out-of-date very quickly whereas those components I just listed stay around for a much longer time. $164

Power Supply: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W - OCZ makes pretty good power supplies and can easily power this setup and many Crossfire setups. $79 (Before $25 mail-in rebate)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA - This is plenty of space for most users. Western Digital's black series is their performance line and always get a hard drive with 32MB of cache. $69

Optical Drive: LITE-ON 24x DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model DH-24AAS - A simple optical drive is all you need. $28

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - You need a 64-bit operating system to use 4GB or more of memory. You cannot reuse an old copy of Windows on a new computer if it is OEM. Doing so violates the license. PC's purchased from Dell, HP, or any other large manufacturer have this type of Windows installed. $104

Total Cost: $993 (Before rebates)

Edited by DJBPace07, 20 December 2009 - 02:51 AM.

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#3 Mysterio2004173

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 03:40 PM

Wow thanks alot for the help and also for taking the time for explaining why each part is worth getting!

Also, since I love multi-tasking... Would the i7's hyperthreading help me with this? or does the Phenom handle this just as good?

Edited by Mysterio2004173, 21 December 2009 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 21 December 2009 - 03:56 PM

Looking around, I found these AMAZING bundles:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleD...st=Combo.308960

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleD...st=Combo.308960

Is it worth it?

Edited by Mysterio2004173, 21 December 2009 - 04:12 PM.


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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:49 PM

The Phenom series can handle multitasking just as well. It is a quad core CPU so multitasking is part of the architecture. Not all games can take advantage of more than two cores, and some don't see a significant performance increase with hyperthreading. In combo one, the CPU is equal to the Phenom II 965, the graphics card is less powerful, the hard drive isn't as fast, and the power supply isn't as good. It does have a higher RAM amount, but you can simply buy a second RAM kit for the AMD build above. Also, it doesn't come with an operating system, so your cost savings will be almost totally gone since Windows costs about $100. Combo two is the same as combo one.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:06 PM

Ohh okay thanks for clearing that up, and is this "dragon platforming system" worth it?

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:13 PM

DJBPace07's suggestion looks good!
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Posted 21 December 2009 - 06:56 PM

yeah they're great, I'm most likely going to order the parts soon with a few different cosmetic changes. such as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119212 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231277. Only for looks :thumbsup:

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 07:17 PM

Good luck with the build!

Only thing missing are a few flashy (red?) LEDs. :thumbsup:

Edited by ReviverSoft, 21 December 2009 - 07:18 PM.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 08:19 PM

Hehe, I like the way you think! and thanks, I'm prob going to need it lol. Also, one last question about static.. Should I really worry about it that much? People make it sound like it will ruin this build for me. =[

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 08:23 PM

Good to use protection! :thumbsup:

On a serious note, check out this great article :Avoiding static damage
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Posted 21 December 2009 - 09:16 PM

Do be careful with the RAM that has large heatsinks, aftermarket CPU coolers may have trouble clearing them. Personally, I think the red case is a bit much. My favorite looking case is the COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP. The Dragon platform is just a suggested group of AMD/ATI components, it's not something you can simply purchase at Newegg.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 09:42 PM

Haha, thanks for the info!

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:53 PM

I've been looking around and a dual screen set up looks interesting.. Is the setup I have here going to do it for one? Also, are there any recommended monitors? Thanks in advance!

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 12:13 AM

You don't need dual monitors. Typically, graphics designers and people in other industries use those setups. There is something called Eyefinity which combines multiple monitors into one, but those are very expensive and usually serve no practical purpose. A Crossfired or SLI'd system does not need multiple monitors, BTW. I suggest getting a good 24-inch monitor and leaving it at that. Once you get much above that, the size can be a bother. You are sitting very close to them, after all. Below are some suggestions.

ASUS MS238H Glossy Black 23" 2ms Ring stand & Ergo-fit LED backlight HDMI Widescreen - A nice looking monitor. It uses LED's instead of a fluorescent tube so you can get good blacks, color accuracy, and is very energy efficient. It's also got a good response time and uses touch-sensitive buttons. It does have an annoying stand though, but you have to admire the design.

LG W2353V-PF Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - Not LED backlit, but still good. The stand can be a bit flimsy though.

LG W2486L Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor - If money is no issue, this is a very nice monitor. It's also LED.

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