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pentium 4 not working right


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#1 um3zawa

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Posted 28 November 2009 - 11:07 PM

I just installed an pentium 4 ht 2.8 into my system. before i had a celeron 2.9. now my system is slower. also under system information it says Intel® Pentium® 2.80Ghz 1.40 Ghz. what could the problem be?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 02:12 AM

Could you post your system specs, primarily what motherboard you have (brand and model number) and less importantly, memory and PSU specs? also, tell us specifically how you changed the CPUs out, and what heatsink and what kind of thermal interface fluid you used, it would help us help you a lot better.

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#3 um3zawa

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 05:46 PM

it is a hp pavilion a705w, Motherboard Description MIS name: MS-6577 M-ATX Rev. 3.1 (Giovani), Rev. 4.0 (Giovani2) Compaq name: Giovani-GL6, Giovani2-GL6, 1gb of memory, 8400 series nvidia graphics card with 512mb of memory, 130 nanometer northwood p4 with ht at 2.8ghz. i opened the case, took off the fan and heatsink, then moved the lever to losen the celeron processor, then laid the p4 in its place, then moved the lever back, then set the heatsink and fan back on it, and closed the case. i then updated the bios so it would support ht and made sure it was turned on.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 08:53 PM

so you didn't use any thermal interface fluid, like arctic silver? its possible the CPU is overheating which is causing the slow down, though not likely. I think I would get some arctic silver 5 or something similar, remove the heatsink, squeeze a rice sized amount on the CPU die and spread it evenly, then clean the old stuff off of the heatsink (its no longer good, once you remove the heatsink its always a good idea to put new stuff on) then reinstall the heatsink. and your sure all the BIOS settings are correct? I.E. the bus speed and the like? that would slow you down worse then a heating problem could.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 09:07 PM

there hasent been any problems with overheating so i dont think that would be it. in the bios i havent seen any options to change any speed seetings so i am not really sure what it is. also when i look under system information it says that the speeds of the processor is 2.8 and 1.4ghz, but the other computer i have which has a 2.8 p4 with ht it says the speeds are 2.8 and 2.79ghz. any idea why there would be a difference like that?

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:06 PM

You should check your CPU Clock settings in your BIOS. The 2 processors run at different bus speeds. The P4 is designed to run faster, and if you put it in after the Celeron, then your BIOS and Motherboard are probably still running at the slower speed, resulting in a readout of 2.8GHz 1.4GHz. In that case, 2.8GHz is probably just a continuation of the model name, and the 1.4GHz is the actual clock speed readout.

You can read more in this specific issue at http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question268.htm. There, they layout in plain terms the different speeds the processors run. This link will display a graph comparing the different clock speeds among the two processors: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battli...hers,510-2.html. That should be good reference for what you should look for.

Check your BIOS settings first and foremost. I believe this is just a BIOS setting.

Edited by Eric ~ Computer Guy, 29 November 2009 - 11:11 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2009 - 07:11 PM

2.79 is pretty close to accurate, rately do the CPUs actually run at the advertised value, their usually about .01 off + or - I wouldnt worry about that. as far as your current problem, eric has your solution.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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