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#1 Hjor36

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 01:00 AM

I have a pretty bleepty computer. My videos are choppy as hell and I lag very hard on Blizzard Bnet (my connection is good but my video/graphics card is bleep). I have absolutely no knowledge in building a computer, but my plan is to have someone that I (sort of) trust build one for me as recommended by almost everyone (to avoid paying too much). I don't need an amazing computer, just need one that will run normal videos/warcraft 3 lagfree. Are there a couple specifications that I could request that would easily obtain my goals? My spending range is about 800-1200 bux. Any input is much appreciated. Thanks.

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#2 Vaerli

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:51 AM

Ah, thats a decent price range, but it sounds like if you're just playing WC3 online, you shouldn't need that much of an upgrade(a 600$ computer would run it fine). Oh, by the way, I suck at warcraft 3.

This is just an experimental build...

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...5-131-_-Product
190$

Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128371
100$ (Could probably find a better one)

Hard Drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148411
80$

RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820148247
130$

Video Card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127430
180$

power source- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817182160
55$

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811147073
30$

Disc drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827140041
30$

Operating System- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116754
110$

Wow, that only comes out to 905$, minus shipping(or my addition errors). Its a bit overkill in the processor department, and maybe the RAM too. Eh, it'd run any new game pretty well.

But if you want a monitor too.... I'd go for something like this-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824009145
160$

You could probably look around and pay a bit less for parts that are just as good though, that was a quick run through.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 05:20 PM

That's a good PC Vaerli suggested (of course!). But below is an alternative AMD and ATI build.

Case: Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000SNA Silver - Given the games you play, you probably don't need a full ATX case to handle the huge graphics cards. $79

Motherboard: ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - This motherboard will handle the latest AM3 processors, allow for Crossfire, and uses DDR3-1600 memory. $61

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz - This is one of the best CPU's AMD offers. It is a quad core CPU at an excellent clock, plus, it is Black Edition which means the multiplier is unlocked making overclocking a breeze. $175

Graphics Card: XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB - This is one of the new 5000-series graphics cards ATI has just introduced. It is roughly equal to the GTX 260 in terms of performance, but is shorter, uses less power, produces less heat, and uses DirectX 11. $174

Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W - This will provide enough power for your system. $74 (Before $25 mail-in rebate)

RAM: A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - Your RAM. Remember, you need a 64-bit operating system to run 4GB or more of RAM. $79

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green WD7500AADS 750GB 32MB Cache - Plenty of space. $69

Optical Drive: LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - A simple one...that's all you really need.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - Your OS. $106

Grand Total: $853 (Before Rebates)

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Monitor: ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) - The monitor in the previous post is good, but this one is better in my opinion. It has a faster refresh rate and costs less after the rebate. $179 (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 11:02 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115215 Intel i5 750 ---------------------------------------------------------------$199
A couple of motherboards to consider

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813130240 MSI P55 Motherboard-----------------------------------------------------$114.99 I wud personally go for this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813157171 ASRock P55 Motherboard-------------------------------------------------$114.99 This one can fit socket 775 heat sink & has good reviews

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220372 Patriot viper DDR3 memory-----------------------------------------------$103.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119137 CM 690 a very likable case that ages well and is a solid quality build $69.99

This gfx card is a 256bit XFX 4870 1GB DDR5 for screens bigger than 19`, if however you are not going to use a monitor over 19` with res more than 1280x1024 then go for the 5770 128bit DX11 card above
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814150436 XFX 4870---------------$154.99

Hard drive i would go with the Seagate 1TB -----------------------------------------------------------$79.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817153040 Tt Tough Power 650w $89.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16824254035 Hanns G 22` monitor--$149.99 Dont forget you will need at least a 256bit graphics card for this size monitor

Total $961.93 plus about $150 for your O/S & peripherals well within your budget me thinks

Obviously you`ll add a few dollars more for peripherals like DVD Burner, keyboard, speakers, mouse, and you might want to add one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835186134 because the Intel heat sinks are crap(the idea is to keep your cpu running hot so you`ll need to replace it sooner) and dont forget windows 7

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 10:10 PM

Know that the i5 750 is roughly on par with a Phenom II X4 965 on games at higher resolutions and the AMD costs about the same. You can always overclock the 955 to the 965 levels, easy since Black Edition processors are unlocked, to get the same performance. I also don't suggest getting an MSI motherboard, the ASrock is okay, but you will not be getting triple channel memory with an i5 platform and they lack hyperthreading, unlike the i7's. Actually, you can run monitors that are 24-inches on a graphics card that is 128-bit. However, you will be limited in terms of anti-aliasing on lower-end graphics card. Anti-aliasing is hard on the GPU and some games may suffer a severe performance hit if ran on a 128-bit GPU. The 5770 would be acceptable even with a 128-bit memory interface. The 5770 still outperforms the 4870 in most games regardless of the memory interface. I also wouldn't get a single, massive 1TB drive, I would go smaller or get two drives, one 300GB or so to contain the OS and applications, and a 750GB to contain all media. THe Hanns-G is an okay monitor, but you do not need a 256-bit graphics card to run it. I run two 9800 GTX (128-bit) cards in SLI on a 24-inch monitor and get excellent performance.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 03:46 AM

I just built a computer, here is what I used.

case

Mobo

video card

power supply

processor

memory

DVD burner

hard drive


This totals to $958, you can go cheaper on the Power Supply, case, and memory and save few bucks. I also have a second DVD and a card reader. Mine totaled just over a $grand.

Just another idea to think about.... :thumbsup:
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 08:28 AM

^Great build, though I would recommend going with a DX11 compatible video card.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:35 AM

Ya know, I never even noticed that when I was looking for a card. Oh well... :thumbsup:
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