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#1 Jove

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 11:36 PM

Would you happen to know if an email can stand up in court, . . if I may offer an answer to my own question, . . . it seems so, . . since I believe that some individuals have been prosecuted on such evidence as an email.

If that is true, then where does the indelible evidence that can not be altered, come in ?

I mean how can one tell that no one has altered the original email and the date and time are authentic.

Edited by Jove, 22 October 2009 - 01:15 AM.

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 03:20 AM

simple if they can trace it back to the source machine. if you find an email on the receivers machine, and you back track it you will find a copy at the original machine and if they match well, hehe your out of luck. some email servers also make copies of emails. anything you send over cyber space can be copied. add into the fact even if you reformat the hard drive there are ways of retrieving information. computers computers, gotta love em or hate em.

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 06:52 PM

Actually, I asked the question because I have a need for document verification, i.e.
doing design innovation work, often a the production evolves the description changing as development occurs, therefore a journal being kept is sometimes in the form of, "minutes",
details entered into the journal, this often creates the need for some type of verification, . .
as for me I run to a notary public to verify the date of inception etc. That gets to be a pain as sometimes its a few time a week.

Since I have gone this far in explanation, I may as well make use of a public disclosure, . .

as an inventive conception

The invention claimed, (by me, "Jove") is a document registration service,
the service is bonded for privacy and security
each page transmitted to the service, (in this case by email, fax may be an option), makes a microfiche copy,
and also has the capability of printing the document, this is stored for user, (sender), who is
returned a copy, (in this case an email and or attachments, etc.), with a document
registration number and date for each page.

I have not searched the patent office for prior art on this but I find that the idea seems interesting enough to research.

The usefulness of the service is for proof of documentation for inventors and writers,
amongst others such as clairvoyants

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Thanks for your feed back.

Edited by Jove, 24 October 2009 - 06:59 PM.

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 02:34 PM

There is another way. Print a copy and send it registered mail back to your self or a friend. Keep all the forms from the U.S. Post office and don't open the mail. Keep it in a safe place. I have used this method and it stood up in court. I like your idea because it would save time. You don't to leave you job or home.

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Posted 25 October 2009 - 06:59 PM

Layback Bear, Thanks for the comments, . .

What about that textual digital language that can be accessed in emails, I don't know how to bring it up with Outlook Express, I recall I could do it a while back when I had AOL, . .

Does anyone know where it is, . . it gives the details on the communique, . .
I ask this because I am looking for the evidential credence ?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:13 AM

You could always sign the e-mails with a private GnuPG key. I don't think it preserves the timestap, though, unless it's part of the message. A GnuPG signed e-mail can be verified to not have been altered after being signed by examining the GnuPG signature block and validating it with the public half of the keypair. (As an example, I will digitally sign this post.)

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32)

iD8DBQBK5TB0qry3I60g4B8RAutFAKCPAhoDv+uIuDIz2tfjpK4noYoUJQCgrK4+
t1TAfTtxzfoKeEZSHLcBuA4=
=fxuM
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Edited by Amazing Andrew, 26 October 2009 - 12:15 AM.


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Posted 26 October 2009 - 08:52 AM

Thank you Amazing Andrew,
I have logged in the information for further considerations.
I have also found the way to access email headers and view the email communications path.

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