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#1 sethmoore

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 11:54 AM

I am looking to make a decently powerful computer for under 500 any advice as to what to change is helpful
will add found parts tommorow...

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#2 DJBPace07

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 12:17 AM

$500 may be pushing it, even for an AMD system. Just for kicks, I spec'd out a system for you at Newegg. It cost about $550, however, that was before an OS was installed. Buying Windows again will cost $100. After looking at your previous posts at BC, it seems you are a student. You may be able to get a discounted version of Windows. Here's what I came up with, you can save some cash by reusing old parts like the HDD and optical drive.

Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW - Solid and highly thought of, it is a mid-tower so using two or more GPU's is not suggested. $49

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - This is certainly not an enthusiast motherboard. Instead, it is a mainstream AM3 platform that can handle the new CPU's and uses DDR3. $79 (Before $10 mail-in rebate)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz - There is a $10 cheaper version of this CPU available, but it isn't as good. For your $10 you get a slightly faster CPU that is also an unlocked Black Edition. This CPU is based off the Phenom II architecture and has all the features of the line. $102

RAM: OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 - This motherboard requires DDR3. Also, you need a 64-bit operating system to use 4GB or more of RAM. $70

Power Supply - RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W - This will provide plenty of power for this system. $69

Graphics Card: ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 - Not the most high-end, but can run all the new games well. $99

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB - A large, inexpensive drive. $55

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - An inexpensive optical drive that can read and write most discs. $27

Operating System: Windows Vista, or 7 64-bit. You may be able to get student discounts on full versions of Windows, but they tend to vary. If you bought the cheap OEM version at Newegg, that will run you about $100, and that isn't included in my $550 I quoted.

Edited by DJBPace07, 22 September 2009 - 12:18 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 12:48 AM

What is the computer going to be used for?
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P, CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Deneb BE, HS/F: CoolerMaster V8, RAM: 2 x 1G Kingston HyperX DDR2 800, VGA: ECS GeForce Black GTX 560, PSU: Antec TruePower Modular 750W, Soundcard: Asus Xonar D1, Case: CoolerMaster COSMOS 1000, Storage: Internal - 2 x Seagate 250GB SATA, 2 x WD 1TB SATA; External - Seagate 500GB USB, WD 640GB eSATA, 3 x WD 1TB eSATA

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#4 sethmoore

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 08:33 AM

well to tell the truth my most done thing is Unreal tournament map processing I already have a atx case a Dvd/cd drive and a hard driv here is what I have so far
cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...3-675-_-Product 170$
power http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139006 120$
motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131402 120$
gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130509 75$
cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0%20led%20110mm 44$
not counting ram it is 528$ any suggestions?

Edited by sethmoore, 22 September 2009 - 08:34 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2009 - 03:33 PM

There are a few changes I would make.

CPU: That's good, but I would spend $20 more on a CPU that is unlocked and has a higher speed, like the AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz.

Motherboard: There is a less expensive alternative that has two PCI-Express X16 slots, it is the ASRock M3A785GXH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard.

GPU: Both the motherboards you just suggested and the one I did both use Crossfire, not SLI. As such you should use an ATI card. The ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB is more powerful and about $20 more. If you want 1GB of VRAM, you can get the HIS H485FN1GP Radeon HD 4850 1GB.

RAM: You can use the RAM from my previous post, you also need to budget in an OS.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 06:29 AM

I already have windows xp old but reliable....and definitly better than vista
I think I might have to go with my first processor just because I cant go over 500$ dollars...that and the ram you suggested is on sale with it
and might go with this cpu cooler... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...n%20cnps%209500

with your suggestions(i think Ill wait to buy some used ram)
560$

but if I keep my cpu
540$

I dont know those ma be wrong so much easier if M y mom wasnt hiding my bank card and forcing me to spend just 500$

Edited by sethmoore, 23 September 2009 - 06:49 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2009 - 03:47 PM

I disagree with XP being better than Vista, but...oh well. If you don't need the PC now, you can wait for Windows 7 in late October. The Windows XP you have will probably be 32-bit so you will be limited to 3GB of RAM if you install 4GB. You can only reuse an old copy of Windows if it is retail and not OEM. OEM copies of Windows, the ones that come with PC's purchased by Dell, HP, or some other builder, have different licenses than the boxed retail copies. In the license for OEM editions, Windows is tied to only one PC. Once installed, it cannot be moved. Microsoft defines a PC based on the motherboard, so if you get a new board, you have a new PC and must then purchase Windows. The boxed retail copy of Windows does not have this restriction and can be moved from PC to PC. Anyway, you don't really need an aftermarket cooler unless you plan on overclocking the CPU. This is where having a Black Edition CPU will be beneficial since they are unlocked and super easy to OC. If all you're wanting is a cooler CPU without the stock fan, there are alternatives such as the ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler, which is less expensive. I have an AC Freezer in one of my PC's, it's pretty good.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 11:38 AM

thanks for the advice also the power supply I found a better one for cheaper
www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4298390&sku=a406-1114
79.99

Edited by sethmoore, 24 September 2009 - 11:39 AM.


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Posted 24 September 2009 - 02:44 PM

That isn't a power supply. That link goes to a motherboard that is unavailable. The quality power supplies come from Corsair, Silverstone, OCZ, Seasonic, and PC Power.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 03:00 PM

Don't for get Ultra too =D
Who said I couldn't have everything?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:07 PM

Ultra PSU's aren't bad, well most of them anyway. Newegg doesn't carry them though, the brands I listed are.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 07:42 AM

sorry try this link
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...p;Sku=A406-1114
both of the suggested Gpus have been deactivated...?

Edited by sethmoore, 30 September 2009 - 07:50 AM.


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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:48 PM

800W is seriously overpowered for a PC holding a single HD 4850. I've also never heard of that brand so you're taking a risk in purchasing it. I say spend the cash on a quality PSU since it provides the power to the entire system and you want it to be good. As for the GPU issue, there are a ton of HD 4850's on the market, such as the ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A Radeon HD 4850 1GB. I think Newegg is trying to clear stock since the new HD 5xxx series is out.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:55 PM

newegg is one of the best sites for getting great deals on computer building equipment. I highly reccomend the specs DJBPace07 suggested. Good solid speed and reliability.

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