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#1 furbz

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 11:35 PM

Well i working on building my first computer, and was set to use intel until a friend recommended amd to me.

I am definitely using an antec 900 and am using windows 7.

Intel build:

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128358

GFX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130434

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139006

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115041

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231148

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136298

All up to a grand total of $800 for ^ 6 parts


However it has recently come to my attention that i could get similar performance from AMD, but i have no knowledge of anything AMD, can anyone recommend an AMD build with similar performance without surpassing $800.

The CPU i was looking at was: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103471

As for any other parts i am completely lost, if anyone cold just help point out some parts it would be greatly appreciated

~Thanks :thumbsup:

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#2 DJBPace07

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 01:41 AM

You will probably get similar performance for less cash on an AMD platform. The graphics card will need to be different if you plan on using SLI since there are very few motherboards that use AM3 only and have a NVidia chipset. Also, the Antec 900 is a mid tower case which will restrict your choice of graphics cards given the lack of depth in a mid tower ATX case. However, if you are going to use a single graphics card, you may be able to scrape by. Here are some suggestions for an AMD setup.

Case: You already know which one you want, so I won't include one here. If you want to have multiple graphics cards, I do suggest a full ATX case.

Motherboard: ASRock M3A780GXH/128M AM3 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Reasonably priced and has all the features one could want. This motherboard supports AMD's AM3 processors only, the AM2+ processor you were looking at will not work. This motherboard also allows for Crossfire and uses DDR3. $92

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz - This is one of AMD's newest CPU's based off the more efficient Phenom II design. This CPU is very similar to the AMD CPU you were looking at earlier, though this one is AM3 and has a higher clock speed. The Black Edition processors mean the multiplier is unlocked, allowing for easy overclocking. This CPU beats or is on par with CPU's in Intel's Core 2 line given it's speed and inclusion of L3 cache. In this case, the 955 usually beats the Q9550, however, actual performance differences vary based on the application and PC setup. $189

RAM: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 - An AM3 motherboard requires DDR3. Remember, you need a 64-bit operating system to use 4GB or more of RAM. $72

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W - This one will be more than enough. A Crossfire or SLI setup might require more power, but I don't suggest using Crossfire or SLI in a mid tower PC case anyway. $99 (Before $10 mail-in rebate)

GPU: POWERCOLOR AX4870 1GBD5 Radeon HD 4870 1GB - If you're not planning on using SLI, you can use the card you suggested. If you want to use two or more cards, than you will need to go ATI. You can get the HD 4870, which is one of the best they have, or you can get the HD 4890. The HD 4890 is only about 5% faster than this and costs $30 more. Both the 4870 and the 4890 are single GPU core cards. $144

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB - This drive has a higher capacity and more cache than the one you suggested. Either will work. $79

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - This drive will read and write most optical media. $29

Total Cost: $709

Things to consider

Windows 7 is not out yet, but plan on spending about $100 more on an operating system. You can purchase Vista now and get a free Windows 7 upgrade coupon. If you want to do that, here's the link. If you want to use another case, a full ATX case, the Thermaltake Eureka VC8000BWA is a nice choice. If you want to experiment with overclocking or want an aftermarket heatsink, the XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler is a good choice.

Edited by DJBPace07, 02 September 2009 - 02:49 PM.

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#3 furbz

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 10:22 AM

Upon further consideration i have decided to go with a full atx case, as it seems to offer a better structural design as well as airflow and more room for possible expansion.

-My mind is not working right and i can't remember, OEM software is fully supported by the manufacturer correct?

-Does the motherboard support crossfire, i could not find it on the hardware page?

-I think i am going to go with the AMD set as it is more value for my $$$. And the less money spent the more games i can buy :thumbsup:

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 02:59 PM

An OEM operating system is supported by the system builder, or you. The software is exactly the same, with the ability to update and manage it being unaffected. The only difference between OEM and Retail is the license and lack of manufacturer support. When I say manufacturer support, I mean that Dell or HP is not there to help you, and thus you would have to pay for support from Microsoft if you need it. I've never had to contact Microsoft for anything other than activation so you should be alright. Also, the license restricts the OS to a single PC. To Microsoft, a PC is defined as a motherboard. If you replace the motherboard, you are, in terms of the license, getting a new PC.

The motherboard supports Crossfire, Newegg sometimes doesn't list that a motherboard can do Crossfire or SLI. Generally, if the motherboard has more than a single PCI Express X16 slot, then it supports one or the other based on the chipset. In this case, the ASRock motherboard as three PCI-E X16 slots and supports Crossfire, as you see here at the manufacturer's page.

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 10:57 PM

From what Ive seen on newegg, I dont know about other sites, if it does not list what it is, its generally crossfire. SLI boards generally are well listed. thats not a 100% rule and definetly something you need to double check on before purchasing (usually all you need to do is read the reviews to find out for sure) but from my experience with newegg, thats a pretty good rule of thumb to live by.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 06:28 AM

Here is an Intel setup with an upgrade path.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115215
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128401
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231277



A worthy upgrade for $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115214

Edited by dpunisher, 10 September 2009 - 06:30 AM.

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