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hey guys, i have one of those end user license agreements


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#1 ~overkill~

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 03:06 PM

but its from ask jeeves and that makes me mighty nervous. Does anyone here know if its legit? It says it lets me do all the smileys. I kind of like em sometimes, if its legit ill keep it, otherwise its outta here :thumbsup: <html>
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<b>END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT/PRIVACY POLICY/TERMS OF SERVICES FOR
FUN WEB PRODUCTS/MYWEBSEARCH BY ASK JEEVES, INC.

<p>IMPORTANT -- PLEASE READ CAREFULLY</p>

<p>SHORT PLAIN ENGLISH SUMMARY OF END USER LICENSE</b>

<p>This is a legal contract between you and Ask Jeeves, Inc. You must agree to this contract and abide by its terms in order to download and use Fun Web Products/MyWebSearch. You must be 18 years of age in order to agree to this contract and download this product. IF YOU ARE NOT YET 18, PLEASE ASK YOUR PARENT OR GUARDIAN TO DOWNLOAD FUNWEBPRODUCTS/MYWEBSEARCH FOR YOU.

<p>By agreeing to this contract, software with the following features will be installed onto your computer:

<p>SEARCH BOX: This is a toolbar that will help you search the Internet using various search engines.

<p>SEARCH ASSISTANT: This provides relevant links and results when your search request or browser address request is misspelled or incorrectly formatted.

<p>SMILEY CENTRAL: This allows you to insert smiley faces and other graphics into your e-mail and instant messages.

<p>CURSOR MANIA: This allows you to change the look of your mouse cursor.

<p>FUN BUDDY ICONS: This allows you to add icons to instant message clients.

<p>HISTORY SWATTER: This allows you to delete easily computer cookies, URL history, temporary cache, and other stored browser files.

<p>MY FUN CARDS: This provides access to free electronic greeting cards that you can personalize on the Web and send to any email address.

<p>MY INFO: This provides instant access to the latest local weather, stock prices, sports scores and news headlines.

<p>MY MAIL NOTIFIER: This allows you to use animated characters to alert you to new web mail messages.

<p>MY MAIL SIGNATURE: This allows you to create signature designs for outgoing email messages.

<p>MY MAIL STAMP: This allows you to insert digital stamp designs into outgoing email messages.

<p>MY MAIL STATIONERY: This provides you with background images, colors and themes to enhance the look of outgoing email messages.

<p>POPULAR SCREENSAVERS: This provides you with photos and images to use as a screensaver or wallpaper on your computer.

<p>In addition, an Easy Installer will be downloaded to install this software. It does not install any other software and is automatically deleted the first time you turn off your computer after installation of the above-described products.


<p><b>THIS PRODUCT AND ALL THE FEATURES LISTED ABOVE ARE FREE.

<p>NO REGISTRATION OR PERSONAL INFORMATION IS REQUIRED.

<p>THIS PRODUCT IS NOT SPYWARE OR ADWARE. IT WILL NOT WATCH HOW YOU USE YOUR COMPUTER. IT WILL NOT DELIVER POP-UP ADS.</b>

<p><b>THIS PRODUCT CAN BE EASILY UNINSTALLED IF YOU LATER DECIDE YOU DO NOT WANT IT.</b> If you want to uninstall this product, click on the "Start" button; then click on the "Settings" button, then click on the "Control Panel" button, then click on the "Add or Remove Programs" button, then look for MyWebSearch, and click on the "Change/Remove" button. In addition, each of the product features can be separately hidden or deactivated by accessing the "Add/Remove Buttons" menu under this button <img src="http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/funwebproducts/magicbutton_16x22.gif" width=16 height=22 alt="" border=0> on your browser which the software installs.

<p>WHAT FOLLOWS NEXT IS THE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT WHICH IS THE FORMAL CONTRACT DESCRIBED ABOVE THAT OUR LAWYERS MAKE US INCLUDE.

<p><b>1. License Grant</b>
<p>Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Ask Jeeves, Inc. ("<b>ASK JEEVES</b>") and its parent and subsidiary companies (collectively, "<b>Licensor</b>", "<b>we</b>", "<b>us</b>" or "<b>our</b>") grant you a non-exclusive, revocable, limited license, to (a) download and install the most current generally available version of the Software (including all updates thereto), and (:flowers: use the Software you download and install solely for your personal, non-commercial purposes.


<b><p>2. License Conditions</p></b>
<p>You may not rent, sell, lease, sublicense, distribute, assign, copy (other than a single copy for your own backup purposes), or in any way transfer the Software or use the Software for the benefit of any third party through any outsourcing or time-sharing arrangement or through the operation of any service bureau. You may not install the Software on any computer without permission from the owner of that computer. You may not modify, reverse-engineer, decompile, disassemble, or otherwise discover the Software, or attempt to do so for any reason. Further, you may not access, create or modify the source code of the Software in any way. You do not have the right to and may not create derivative works of the Software. All modifications or enhancements to the Software remain the sole property of Licensor. You understand that we, in our sole discretion, may modify or discontinue or suspend your right to access any of our services or use the Software at any time, and we may at any time suspend or terminate any license hereunder and disable the Software or any of its component features.

<p>We reserve the right to add additional features or functions to the existing Software. When installed on your computer, the Software periodically communicates with our servers. We may require the updating of the Software on your computer when we release a new version of the Software, or when we make new features available. This update may occur automatically or through other means and may occur all at once or over multiple sessions. You understand that we may require your review and acceptance of our then-current END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT/TERMS OF SERVICE/PRIVACY POLICY before you will be permitted a limited license for any subsequent versions of the Software. You acknowledge and agree that we have no obligation to make available to you any subsequent versions of the Software.


<b><p>3. Ownership </p></b>
<p>You acknowledge and agree that the Software is licensed, not sold to you by Licensor. You acknowledge that the Software, including all code, content, protocols, software, and documentation provided to you by Licensor in conjunction with the Software or our services are Licensor's property or the property of Licensor's licensors, and are protected by U.S. and international copyright, trademarks, patents and other proprietary rights and laws relating to Intellectual Property Rights. "<b>Intellectual Property Rights</b>" means, collectively, rights under patent, trademark, copyright and trade secret laws, and any other intellectual property or proprietary rights recognized in any country or jurisdiction worldwide, including, without limitation, moral or similar rights. You may not delete, alter, or remove any copyright, trademark, or other proprietary rights notice we have placed on the Software. All rights not expressly granted hereunder are expressly reserved to Licensor and its licensors.


<b><p>4. Content and Infringement</p></b>
<p>You understand that all content, including, without limitation all data, links, articles, search results, graphic or video messages and all information, text, software, music, sound, graphics or other materials ("Content") made available or accessible through the Software or our services, whether publicly available or privately transmitted, is the sole responsibility of the entity from whom it originated. You understand and agree that by using the Software, such as by clicking through to a third-party website by following a search results link, you may be exposed to Content that may be offensive, indecent or objectionable in your community. You agree to accept all risks associated with the use of any Content, including any reliance on the accuracy or completeness of such Content. Under no circumstances will Licensor be liable in any way for any Content created by or originating with entities other than Licensor, including, but not limited to, any errors or omissions in any such Content, or for loss or damage of any kind incurred as a result of the transmission or posting of such Content by means of the Software.

<p>We are not responsible for any Content such as audio, video, text or any other, files owned by users of the Software. The Software is exposed to various security issues, and should be regarded as unsecure. By accepting this Agreement, you acknowledge and accept that the Software, and any information you download or offer to share by means of the Software, may be exposed to unauthorized access, interception, corruption, damage or misuse, and should be regarded as insecure. You accept all responsibility for such security risks and any damage resulting therefrom.

<p>In addition, all Content made available or accessed through the Software is the property of the applicable Content owner and may be protected by applicable laws including without limitation those relating to Intellectual Property Rights. This Agreement gives you no rights to such Content.

<p>Licensor respects and expects its users to respect the rights of copyright holders. On notice, Licensor will act appropriately to remove Content under our control that infringes the copyright rights of others. Licensor reserves the right to disable the access to the Software and our services by anyone who uses them to repeatedly infringe the Intellectual Property Rights of others. If you believe that our services contain elements that infringe your copyright rights, please follow our Notice and Procedure for Making Claims of Copyright Infringement contained in Section 17 below. ").


<b><p>5. Installation, Operation and Removal.</p></b>
<p>UPON INSTALLATION OF THE FUN WEB PRODUCTS/MYWEBSEARCH PRODUCT, THE FOLLOWING FEATURES WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR BROWSER (AND ANY SUPPORTED EMAIL CLIENTS AND INSTANT MESSENGER CLIENTS IN THE FORM OF NEW OR EXPANDED TOOLBARS):

<p>SEARCH BOX will: add a toolbar to your Internet browser. The browser toolbar is customizable and will provide you with easy access to search results from several of the best search engines on the Internet.

<p>SMILEYCENTRAL will: allow you to insert emoticons and other graphics into your web-mail, Outlook, Outlook Express and instant messages.

<p>CURSOR MANIA - Free computer mouse cursors that allow the user to change the look of his/her default cursor to something more fun and expressive.

<p>FUN BUDDY ICONS - Free icons that can be added to an instant messenger client as a way of representing the user's style, taste or personality to his/her online IM buddies.

<p>HISTORY SWATTER - Free tool that allows the user to easily delete computer cookies, URL history, temporary cache, and other stored browser files.
MY FUN CARDS: This provides access to free greeting cards that you can personalize on the Web and send to any email address.

<p>MY INFO - Provides instant access to the latest local weather, stock prices, sports scores and news headlines in categories the user selects - all from the left side of the browser window.

<p>MY MAIL NOTIFIER - Free tool that lets animated characters alert you to new webmail messages.

<p>MY MAIL SIGNATURE - Free tool that provides the ability to create free signature designs to place in the footer of outgoing email messages.

<p>MY MAIL STAMP - Digital stamp designs which can be inserted into outgoing emails as fun graphical elements.

<p>MY MAIL STATIONARY - Free background images, colors and themes to enhance the look of outgoing email messages.

<p>POP SWATTER - Free tool that swats pop-up ads before they appear. Includes a "Safe List" to allow pop-ups from user-specified web pages.

<p>POPULAR SCREENSAVERS - Free photos and images that can be added to the user's screensaver or PC desktop wallpaper. Also includes the ability to add personal digital photos.

<p>SEARCH ASSISTANT - Provides relevant links and results in response to misspelled or incorrectly formatted browser address requests.

<p>EACH OF THESE FEATURES CAN BE SEPARATELY HIDDEN OR DEACTIVATED BY ACCESSING THE "ADD/REMOVE BUTTONS" MENU UNDER THIS BUTTON <img src="http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/funwebproducts/magicbutton_16x22.gif" width=16 height=22 alt="" border=0> IN THE SOFTWARE WHICH THE SOFTWARE INSTALLS IN THE USER'S INTERNET BROWSER. THE SOFTWARE (INCLUDING ALL FEATURES) CAN BE UNINSTALLED FROM THE "ADD OR REMOVE PROGRAMS" DIALOG BOX IN THE WINDOWS CONTROL PANEL, WHERE IT IS LISTED AS "MY WEB SEARCH BROWSER."

<p>The Software does not collect any personal information about you (such as your name, email address, etc.). Further, the Software does not: (a) collect or report back to us (or anyone else) any information about sites you visit on the Internet; (:trumpet: collect or "screen-scrape" any search queries or information that you provide to any other web sites; © serve pop-ups when you are on other websites; or (d) collect or report back to us (or anyone else) any data regarding your computer keystrokes or other data unrelated to the services the Software provides. You may choose to register for additional functionality for two of the features listed above: My Info and My Fun Cards. More information on the registration process and our use of personally identifiable information given in registration can be found in Section 6 ("Privacy Policy") below.

<p>The Software, in the course of processing a given search query, sends a request to our servers. This request includes the keyword query, time of day, browser type, default language setting, IP address, an anonymous unique ID, and a code which identifies the distribution source of the Software used by you to conduct your search. If the search query is being generated as the result of a misspelled URL or search term entered in to the browser address bar, we also receive the misspelled URL address or search term. We use this information in order to properly process your search request. For example, this data provides us with: information on which language you prefer to use; aggregated click information for the purpose of ensuring that our search partners are appropriately compensating us; information that allows us to make accurate payments to our distributors; aggregated usage and retention information; and aggregated search query information for the purpose of further monetizing commercially oriented search keywords.

<p>Importantly, all information collected from a search query is recorded on a non-personally identifiable basis and is kept strictly anonymous. In addition, all information about search activity is evaluated only on an aggregated basis (excepted in response to a customer service inquiry or legal process), and we do not disclose any non-aggregated information to third parties, except as required by a valid legal process such as a search warrant, subpoena, statute, or court order, or to protect someone's safety.

<p>The Software also uses "cookies". We do this for two reasons. First, we use the cookies to store a code designating a distribution source for the Software. This information allows us to properly distinguish Software for purposes of compensating third parties who distribute our product and to analyze retention and usage on an aggregated basis. Second, the Software uses cookies to store user preferences. For example, we use a cookie to record which search engine you have selected as your default provider. We do not use cookies to track your use of the Internet in any other way or to store any personally-identifiable information, and we do not disclose cookie information to third parties, except as required by a valid legal process such as a search warrant, subpoena, statute, or court order or to protect someone's safety.

<p>The Software also sends a configuration request when you start your browser. This request is approximately 5k in size and includes only anonymous data such as IP address, browser type, and information about the specific release date and distribution source of your Software, as outlined above. Again, all of this information is kept strictly anonymous, is non-personally identifiable, and is used only for purposes of delivering search services and content in accordance with your preferences and providing us with data on an aggregated basis relating to retention, usage, and monetization.

<p>If you wish to withdraw your consent to the communication and data usage as described herein, you should uninstall the Software from your computer. You may uninstall or remove the Software at any time by following the instructions above.



<b><p><a name="privacy"></a>6. Privacy Policy</p></b>
<p>This privacy policy applies to the Software and each of the related web sites (the "Web Sites") maintained by ASK JEEVES ("we" or "us"). In the event of any inconsistency between this privacy policy and a policy listed on one of the other Web Sites, this policy shall control.

<p>We do not collect any personally identifiable information (such as names or email addresses) about users of the Software or the Web Sites ("you"), unless you specifically decide to provide such information (such as by emailing a help request to us or when registering to use the My Info feature, as described below). We do not sell, rent or trade any personally identifiable information you provide when using the Software or the Web Sites.

<p>If you choose to provide us with an email address, we will not send an email to you unless you specifically request an email response to a customer service inquiry or contact is required in order to protect someone's safety or to enforce our Terms of Service. You are not required to provide an email address to use the Software or the Web Sites.

<p>There are two features of the Software that permit you to provide personal information if you wish. These features are My Info and My Fun Cards. We do not sell, rent or trade any personal information that you provide when using the My Info and My Fun Cards features.

<ul>
<li>The Software's "My Info" feature gives you one-click access to news, sports, weather, finances, horoscope, movie listings, lottery results and more, which appear in a thin window to the immediate left of your main browser window. The "My Info" feature is powered by My Way-a Web portal located at <a href="http://www.myway.com">www.myway.com</a> - and you can access customized content with the My Info feature only if you have registered with My Way. My Way registration is free and easy and does not require you to provide any personally identifiable information. Any information you provide to My Way is governed by the separate My Way privacy policy (which you can review at <a href="http://info.myway.com/index/id/privacy.html">http://info.myway.com/index/id/privacy.html</a>). My Way registration is not required to use any of the Software's other features, and installation of the Software does not require or result in My Way registration.</li>

<li>The Software's "My Fun Cards" feature gives you access to free online greeting cards and allows you to send online greeting cards to email addresses of your choice. This feature permits you to register, so that you can send cards quicker and easier. My Fun Cards registration is free and easy and allows you to access a personalized addressed book when sending greeting cards. You can also use My Fun Cards without registering.</li>
</ul>

<p>Registration is not required to use any of the Software's other features.

<p>When you visit the Web Sites, we may place a small text file - called a "cookie" - on your computer that allows us to identify your Web browser. We use cookies to improve the quality of our service, and to store your preferences and settings. Importantly, a cookie does not allow us to obtain any personally identifiable information (such as your real name or address) unless you have specifically provided such information when using the Web Sites or the Software.

<p>We also capture your source IP address which is a standard practice for most internet sites. We in no way associate your IP address with any cookies and do not use your IP address in conjunction with any personally identifiable information.

<p>If any of the Web Sites or the Software is ever sold or all or substantially all of the assets relating to a Web Site or the Software are transferred to another entity, we may transfer all information provided by or collected from you, including personally identifiable information, in order to ensure continuity of your service.

<p>We will disclose information, including personally identifiable information, data acquired by cookies, and other data, where required by a subpoena, interception order or other lawful process. We also reserve the right to disclose such information when we believe, in our sole judgment and to the extent consistent with applicable law, that such disclosure is necessary to protect the rights or safety of others or to enforce, or protect our rights under, this Agreement.


<b><p>7. Your Obligations </p></b>
<p>You represent and warrant that you are either the owner or an authorized user of the computer where the Software is installed. No registration is required to use the Software. However, if you elect to provide any information in connection with the use of any other services Licensor offers, you agree to provide and to maintain fully accurate, complete and current information. If Licensor has reasonable grounds to suspect that such information is inaccurate, not current or not complete, Licensor has the right to suspend or terminate your use of the Software or our services, and pursue any appropriate legal remedies. You agree that we shall have the right to use the information you provide to us for the purposes described in this Agreement and in furtherance of your use of our services. You may use our services only for lawful purposes. The services described herein are subject to, and you agree that you shall at all times comply with, all local, state, national, and international laws, statutes, rules, regulations, ordinances and the like applicable to use of the Licensor services and Software. You agree not to use the Software or any other services provided by Licensor to conduct any business or activity or solicit the performance of any activity, which is prohibited by law, or any contractual provision by which you are bound.


<b><p>8. Access and Interference; Passwords</p></b>
<p>You agree that you will not use any robot, spider, other automatic or manual device or process to interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of any of our Software, services or content, except to remove our Software from a computer of which you are an owner or authorized user. You may not violate or attempt to violate the security of our services. We reserve the right to investigate occurrences which may involve such violations, and may involve, and cooperate with, law enforcement authorities in prosecuting users who have participated in such violations. You agree that it is your responsibility to install anti-virus software and related protections against viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, cancelbots or other techniques that may have the effect of damaging, destroying, disrupting or otherwise impairing a computer's functionality or operation.

<p>In order to access certain services which may from time to time be offered by Licensor, you may be required to accept additional terms and conditions and/or, establish an account including an unique identification code or name (an "ID") and password (a "Password"). You are the sole and exclusive owner of any Password and ID combination issued or chosen by to you. Maintaining the confidentiality and security of your Password(s) and ID(s) is solely your responsibility. You are fully responsible for the use and protection of each Password and ID issued to or chosen by you and for all transactions undertaken by means of any account opened, held, accessed or used via such Password and ID. You shall notify us immediately and confirm in writing any unauthorized use of accounts or any breach of security, including without limitation any loss, theft or unauthorized use of your Password(s), and/or ID(s) or any related account. If we have reasonable grounds to suspect that the security of your Password and/or ID has been compromised, we have the right to suspend or terminate your account, refuse any and all current or future use of the services, and pursue any appropriate legal remedies. We shall not be responsible for any losses incurred in connection with any misuse of any Password or ID.

<b><p>9. Submissions</p></b>
<p>If at our request you send content (e.g., postings, contest submissions, polling questions) or you send us creative suggestions, ideas, notes, drawings, or other information (collectively, the "<b>Submissions</b>"), such Submissions shall be deemed, and shall remain, the property of ASK JEEVES. None of the Submissions shall be subject to any obligation of confidence on the part of ASK JEEVES, and ASK JEEVES shall not be liable for any use or disclosure of any Submissions. Without limitation of the foregoing, ASK JEEVES shall exclusively own all now known or hereafter existing rights to the Submissions of every kind and nature throughout the universe and shall be entitled to unrestricted use of the Submissions for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the provider of the Submissions.


<b><p>10. Links and Search Results</p></b>
<p>The Software may provide, or third parties may provide, search results or other links to other World Wide Web sites or resources. Because we have no control over such sites and resources, you acknowledge and agree that we are not responsible for the availability of such external sites or resources, and do not endorse and are not responsible or liable for any Content, advertising, products, or other materials on or available from such sites or resources. You further acknowledge and agree that we shall not be responsible or liable, directly or indirectly, for any damage or loss caused or alleged to be caused by or in connection with use of or reliance on any such Content, goods or services available on or through any such site or resource.


<b><p>11. Disclaimer of Warranty</p></b>
<p>YOUR ACCESS AND USE OF THE SOFTWARE AND SERVICES AND ANY CONTENT AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR SOFTWARE, SERVICES OR ON OUR WEBSITES AT YOUR SOLE RISK.

<p>WE PROVIDE THE SOFTWARE AND THE CONTENT ON AN "AS IS," AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, TITLE, CUSTOM, TRADE, QUIET ENJOYMENT, ACCURACY OF INFORMATIONAL CONTENT, SYSTEM INTEGRATION OR NON-INFRINGEMENT.

<p>WE MAKE NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES CONCERNING THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THIRD PARTIES ACCESSIBLE ON OR THROUGH OUR SOFTWARE OR OUR SERVICES. ANY MATERIAL DOWNLOADED OR OTHERWISE OBTAINED THROUGH THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE IS DONE AT YOUR SOLE RISK AND YOU WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM OR LOSS OF DATA THAT RESULTS FROM THE DOWNLOAD OF ANY SUCH MATERIAL.

<p>NEITHER WE NOR OUR DIRECTORS, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, PARENTS, SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, AGENTS, CONTRACTORS, THIRD PARTY VENDORS, FACILITIES, INFORMATION PROVIDERS, LICENSORS, NOR ANY EXCHANGES, CLEARING ORGANIZATIONS OR OTHER SUPPLIERS PROVIDING DATA, INFORMATION, OR SERVICES (EACH A "PROVIDER") MAKE ANY REPRESENTATION OR WARRANTY: (A) AS TO THE TIMELINESS, SEQUENCE, ACCURACY, COMPLETENESS, RELIABILITY OR CONTENT OF THE SOFTWARE OR LICENSOR'S SERVICES OR ANY INFORMATION, SERVICE OR TRANSACTION PROVIDED THEREBY, (:inlove: THAT THE SOFTWARE OR LICENSOR'S SERVICES WILL BE AVAILABLE OR WILL OPERATE IN AN UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE MANNER, © THAT ERRORS OR DEFECTS RELATED TO THE SOFTWARE OR THE SERVICES WILL BE CORRECTED, OR (D) THAT WE WILL RECOGNIZE ANY OCCURRENCE OF IDENTITY THEFT. WE ALSO DO NOT WARRANT THAT THE SOFTWARE OR THE SERVICES OR THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE THROUGH THE SERVICES, IS APPROPRIATE, ACCURATE OR AVAILABLE FOR USE IN ANY PARTICULAR JURISDICTION.

<p>ASK JEEVES MAKES NO GUARANTEES AS TO THE SITES AND INFORMATION LOCATED WORLDWIDE THROUGHOUT THE INTERNET WHICH YOU MAY ACCESS AS A RESULT OF THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE, INCLUDING AS TO: (I) THE ACCURACY, CURRENCY, CONTENT, OR QUALITY OF ANY SUCH SITES AND INFORMATION, OR (II) WHETHER ANY SEARCH USING THE SOFTWARE MAY LOCATE UNINTENDED AND OBJECTIONABLE CONTENT.

<p>PLEASE NOTE THAT NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION, OBTAINED BY YOU FROM ASK JEEVES PERSONNEL OR THROUGH THE SOFTWARE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY PROVIDED FOR IN THESE TERMS OF SERVICE.

<p>SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE DISCLAIMER OF IMPLIED WARRANTIES. IN SUCH JURISDICTIONS, THE FOREGOING DISCLAIMERS MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU INSOFAR AS THEY RELATE TO IMPLIED WARRANTIES.

<p>THIS DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY CONSTITUTES AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THIS AGREEMENT.


<b><p>12. Termination</p></b>
<p>You may terminate this Agreement at any time by uninstalling and destroying all copies of the Software in your possession or control.

<p>We may terminate this Agreement or your account (or any part thereof), disable the Software or cease providing any service at any time in our sole discretion. You agree that we shall not be liable to you or any third-party for any termination or disabling of the Software.


<b><p>13. Limitation of Liability</p></b>
<p>YOU EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT IN NO EVENT WILL LICENSOR OR ITS AFFILIATES, OR THEIR EMPLOYEES, DISTRIBUTORS, SUPPLIERS, MERCHANT PARTNERS, ADVERTISERS, DIRECTORS OR AGENTS (EACH A "<b>PROTECTED PARTY</b>", COLLECTIVELY, "<b>PROTECTED PARTIES</b>") BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, PUNITIVE, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOST PROFITS, LOST BUSINESS OR LOST OPPORTUNITY, GOODWILL, OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF LICENSOR HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES) OR OTHER RELIEF ARISING OUT OF, OR RELATED TO, THIS AGREEMENT OR TO: (i) YOUR USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE SOFTWARE; (ii) THE COST OF PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS AND SERVICES RESULTING FROM ANY GOODS, DATA, INFORMATION, SERVICES OR SOFTWARE PURCHASED OR OBTAINED OR MESSAGES RECEIVED OR TRANSACTIONS ENTERED INTO THROUGH OR FROM THE SOFTWARE; (iii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iv) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE SOFTWARE; OR (v) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE SOFTWARE. IN NO EVENT SHALL OUR TOTAL LIABILITY TO YOU FOR ALL DAMAGES, LOSSES, AND CAUSES OF ACTION (WHETHER IN CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, NEGLIGENCE), OR OTHERWISE EXCEED THE AMOUNT PAID BY YOU, IF ANY, FOR ACCESSING THIS SITE.)

<p>SOLELY TO THE EXTENT THE FOREGOING LIMITATION OF LIABILITY IS, FOR ANY REASON, HELD TO BE INAPPLICABLE OR UNENFORCEABLE IN WHOLE OR IN PART, THEN THE PROTECTED PARTIES' AGGREGATE LIABILITY, FOR ANY REASON AND FOR ANY CAUSE OF ACTION AND ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, ARISING OUT OF OR RELATED TO THE SOFTWARE, THE SERVICES OR THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE LESSER OF DAMAGES ACTUALLY INCURRED OR THE AVERAGE REVENUE RECEIVED BY LICENSOR PER YOUR USE OF THE SOFTWARE PER MONTH AS CALCULATED BY LICENSOR BASED ON THE SUE OF THE SOFTWARE (AND NOT OTHER PRODUCTS OR SERVICES OFFERED BY LICENSOR) MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF COMPLETE MONTHS YOU HAVE BEEN A SOFTWARE USER. THE PROTECTED PARTIES ASSUME NO LIABILITY HEREUNDER FOR, AND SHALL HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO DEFEND YOU OR TO PAY COSTS, DAMAGES OR ATTORNEYS' FEES FOR, ANY CLAIM BASED UPON: (A) ANY METHOD OR PROCESS IN WHICH THE SOFTWARE MAY BE USED BY YOU; (:cool: ANY RESULTS OF USING THE SOFTWARE; © ANY USE OF OTHER THAN A CURRENT UNALTERED RELEASE OF THE SOFTWARE; OR (D) THE COMBINATION, OPERATION OR USE OF THE SOFTWARE WITH THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS OR DATA.

<p>BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATE OR JURISDICTIONS, OUR LIABILITY SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW.



<b><p>14. Indemnification</p></b>
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<b><p>17. Notice and Procedure for Making Claims of Copyright Infringement</p></b>
<p>ASK JEEVES respects the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users to do the same. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please provide our Copyright Agent with the following information:
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<li>a description of the copyrighted work that you claim has been infringed;
<li>a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site;
<li>your address, telephone number, and email address;
<li>a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
<li>a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on the copyright owner's behalf.
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<p>Please contact ASK JEEVES' Copyright Agent for Notice of claims of copyright infringement as follows:

<p>Annie Cappeller c/o ASK JEEVES, Inc. (Fun Web Product/My Web Search Product) P.O. Box 228 Irvington, N.Y. 10533 914-591-0204 <a href="mailto:copyright@help.mywebsearch.com">copyright@help.mywebsearch.com</a>.


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<p>The substantive laws of the State of California in the United States of America, without regard to conflict of laws principles, shall govern all matters relating to or arising from this Agreement, and the use (or inability to use) any or all of the services or the Software. Subject to the dispute resolution procedures set forth below, you hereby submit to the exclusive jurisdiction and venue of the appropriate State and Federal courts located in San Francisco County, California, with respect to all matters arising out of or relating to this Agreement. The United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods does not apply to this Agreement. You agree that regardless of any statute or law to the contrary, any claim or cause of action arising out of or related to use of the Licensor service, the Software, or this Agreement must be filed within one (1) year after such claim or cause of action arose or be forever barred.

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<p>The Software and the services are not intended for use by or availability to persons under the age of 18. IF YOU ARE UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE, YOU MAY NOT DOWNLOAD, INSTALL OR USE THE SOFTWARE AND YOU MAY NOT ACCESS LICENSOR SERVICES.


<b><p>23. Customer Concerns.</p></b>
<p>If you have any questions about this Agreement or the Software, feel free to contact us at: <a href="mailto:eula@help.funwebproducts.com">eula@help.funwebproducts.com</a>.

<p>Effective Date: June 1, 2005

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#2 ufoshadow

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 03:23 PM

Hi there,

I ran across this article about FunWebProducts when I googled it. Looks like adware that is very hard to remove. Here is the link:

no fun with FunWebProducts

Hope this helps some

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 03:33 PM

I agree with Ufo, I think the link he/she provided is spot on. Install it at your own risk.

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 03:34 PM

This is the coolwebssearch/mywebsearch trojan. Do not accept and install this product!

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 04:05 PM

yea, i knew i could count on this place...thanks peeps, my hats off to ya :thumbsup:

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 05:58 PM

This is a legal contract between you and Ask Jeeves, Inc. You must agree to this contract and abide by its terms in order to download and use Fun Web Products/MyWebSearch. You must be 18 years of age in order to agree to this contract and download this product. IF YOU ARE NOT YET 18, PLEASE ASK YOUR PARENT OR GUARDIAN TO DOWNLOAD FUNWEBPRODUCTS/MYWEBSEARCH FOR YOU.

MyWebSearch = malware

By agreeing to this contract, software with the following features will be installed onto your computer:
SEARCH BOX: This is a toolbar
SEARCH ASSISTANT
SMILEY CENTRAL
CURSOR MANIA
FUN BUDDY ICONS
HISTORY SWATTER
MY FUN CARDS
MY INFO
MY MAIL NOTIFIER
MY MAIL SIGNATURE
MY MAIL STAMP
MY MAIL STATIONERY
POPULAR SCREENSAVERS

All garbage that will, significantly, slow down your computer.

The Software may provide, or third parties may provide, search results or other links to other World Wide Web sites or resources.

Read that as WILL.

Dump it, and move on.
You don't need to sign any license agreement to get smileys.
There are too many sites on the internet where they are Free to use.

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 08:20 PM

TALK ABOUT OVERKILL!Everything mentioned in that EULA is notorious,I have
some experience of Fun Web Products after downloading some 'free' garbage,
fortunately Spybot S&D has all that stuff on the data base.I've seen all this C***
mentioned on anti spyware sites,some make the top 10 lists!Spysweeper and
Ewido also clear it out (enough said?)-Ask Jeeves is now extremely suspect too
&Spyware Warrior mention it as a rogue search engine,supported by Ads for
rogue AntiSpyware.You will be plagued by pop ups and browser redirects,homepage hijacks & unpleasant browsing as long as that stuff is on your system.http://www.spywareaid.com/index.php is a just discovered new site with links toall the right free utilities to rid yourself of malware/spyware like FWS-BHO's.Had to share that link with all.

Edited by Deodar, 14 July 2005 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 14 July 2005 - 10:16 PM

Hi ~overkill~,
I see you met my aunt EULA. :thumbsup: And have encountered the MYWay toobar/Smiley Central. Did you download that yourself or did it come along with something else?

I just want you to know that there is some hysteria associated with this toolbar that MyWay calls Speedbar, and you've gotten some misinformation here along with some that is good. I also recommend that you don't install this product but only because it does slow down your system and automatic updaters that are require can't be trusted.

But here are some things that it is not:
1. A Coolwebsearch variant
2. A trojan
3. Spyware
4. Adware that injects popups--at least last time I checked.

About all the tracking that is done is keeping up with what ads are clicked on search pages so that MyWay gets paid.

The whole thing is relatively benign. The reason removers like Spybot target it is because Speedbar comes bundled with several P2P aps like Kazaa and Grokster. When speedbar is installed, it changes your homepage to MyWay. So scenarios like parents using their computer after the kids have installed one of these P2P apps, see their hompage changed and think they have been hijacked are common. Which makes it an unwanted change either way you cut it. So it is actually foistware/bundleware. I spent a lot of time over at the MyWay message boards trying to talk people who installed Smiley Central voluntarily into uninstalling it. But believe me, there is much worse stuff out there that makes Speedbar look like a choir-boy.

And yes MyWay was sold to Ask Jeeves and Ask Jeeves has been sold to InterActiveCorp.
http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.p...d=11000_0_6_0_C

Search engines are big business and none of the comanies that make their money there can be trusted to be 100% ethical in their marketing strategies.

The thing about people

is they change

when they walk away.--Mipso


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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:09 AM

actually, peeps, i didnt have anything to do with gettin it.. i found it in my add/remove programs file after running some scans, then going back to remove the hotbar leftovers...btw, hotbar installs at least three of them and they switch over to the new names when you quarantine, block, or delete them. Even in safe mode. that was attached to the second of them when i removed it from the add/remove programs. I seriously believe the auto update had a lot to do with it cuz when i clicked it to remove it from the spot it was in, it reversed directions and started an installshield rather than an uninstall shield as did pcmightymax when i took it out, and incidentally, coolweb renamed itself funweb when i took it out. I was rather well protected last time i had that pc on the net and had no worries of this. I also havent much experience with this new wave of stupid bleep people like to come up with to stick on someones property just for the hell of doing it. Fortunately, I have had the presence of mind to pay attention to bleep like that and figure some other way around it. that pc has been offline almost a year and the only thing i used it for is a jukebox. freeware dies and with a 24/7 connection i didnt realise that i could end up with that much bleep on it no more places than i have been with it. incidentally again one of the programs which put a lot of this bleep on there was spyware nuker which i dled in an attempt to protect myself from further damage, and didnt even have the courtesy to give me a 15 day trial run in order to show me how good it was. As i stated in my last lengthy post, first time i ran antispy it found about 2200 different entries including dialers, worms, trojans, hkey registry , and vampires which frickin morph when ya kill em. btw, i did manage to use that right the first time. i did NOT give up and want to reformat because i lost a ini file and i did NOT ask where to get the emoticons and avatars. I merely was hoping against hope that i wasnt going to have to go through all the safe mode find and type in all those lines of registry yet one more time to kill the program responsible for all those cute little things that we all love so much about surfing and chatting. However, I do have almost 10, 000 different songs on that thing that I have collected over a lengthy period of time and a wider variety of music than exists on any two, maybe three radio stations in my city. I f i click the first song in my library i can play music nonstop for almost 20 days without hearing the same song twice. And not one single song came from the net. That is very important to me, as it would be very difficult to replace a lot of that collection. If i had all kinds of money i wouldnt have even put it on the net and would have just purchased another. However i am not going to abandon it either. Considering the things i have ran into trying to clean it im not so sure i would want to put any of those songs onto a clean hard drive. So I shall try to deal with this stuff, clean it out, and protect it. darn, i was so close too. but please, if you would, consider that i havent the experience dealing with this stuff that you folks have, and while i AM stumbling a bit, i have asked for minimal help.

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:24 AM

contiued from previous: Instead of bugging everyone to death i have joined this wonderful fountain of knowledge and nosed and poked around til i found what i was looking for and went back to fix it. Now, if i seem a bit cranky its because i have been starin at this thing for about twenty hours trying to figure out what in the name of god would possess someone to pull this kind of stuff, and i took offense at some of the cute lil quotes and sidebars. I consider myself a pretty intelligent person EVEN THOUGH I DO GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE HERE. i believe its prolly time for me to relax a bit. And once again, thanks so much for all the information, i couldnt have gotten as far as i have on this without the info




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