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#1 JorgeO.555

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 10:11 AM

Hello, I have 2 drives in my PC - a 500GB main drive (partition C,D) and a 300GB used for swap (E), backup and some lesser used files storage (F, no execs in it) and scratch (G)..

I'm trying PerfectDisk10 and it will defrag C,D system files, but it won't defrag F system files (at reboot) because the drive is locked by some process.??
Files defrag works fine in both drives, CHKDSK wont find any problem. No malware according to AVG 8.5, Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware.

Is there a way to find out what is locking the drive?

Thanks for any help.

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 03:35 PM

I have Perfect Disk 8 (also had 5/6/7).

What's the exact error message? When does it appear?

I've never known PD to have any problem with system files on reboot.

Of course...I don't have any external drives which connect via USB and which PD might not be able to defrag at boot...because the drive is not recognized at boot.

Have you looked at the Raxco website for an answer?

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 04:16 PM

Louis

Thanks for the reply.

The message is shown at boot time, it says defragmenting drive F:\, wait a few seconds and then "could not gain exclusive access".

I've done a search at Raxco site and didn't find any complaint about it, so it doesn't seems a PD problem, but something in my PC.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 05:02 PM

OK...let me understand...this problem drive is connected directly to the motherboard? It is not an external drive?

What makes you think there are system files on any drive other than the Windows partition? Ordinarily, there aren't, unless there is another operating system installed on a given partition.

Any time I've seen messages about being unable to gain access, I was either given the option to force the partition to shut down or run the defrag on reboot (for system files).

I suppose that PD could be corrupt. Might as well try the uninstall/reinstall routine.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:00 PM

- The driver is internal, SATA. It used to be the main driver, then I purchased a 500G one and made the 300G a backup (I've been doing this type of upgrade/backup for a long time).
- As far as I can tell, there are no system files on the backup (besides the backup ones). The Windows dir is located in C:
- I am given the reboot option. the error messages are during reboot. - 2 messages (I had forgotten one): "could not gain exclusive access". " there is a possible driver conflict".

Both CHKDSK and Partition Master 4.0 don't point to any partition conflict (tested all partitions in the drive), and as I've posted, I can defrag files normally in the whole drive (any partition).


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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:25 PM

The system files on the backup...should not matter...because they should be rolled up as some type of compressed file in whatever file format your backup software uses. XP cannot see them as system files, only as backup files.

I have SATA and PATA drives on my two systems and I've never had a problem with PD that could be attributed to such.

Did you try uninstalling/reinstalling PD?

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:57 PM

Yes, I did.
Note that the problem is only with partition F:(NTFS) - Partition E: (Swap, FAT32) and G: (NTFS) are on the same drive and I have no problem with them.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:08 AM

To be honest, I have no clue. It doesn't make sense to me.

I would suggest uninstalling PD...and running the Windows defrag tool to see if it works properly on that partition.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:29 AM

Please download and run Processexplorer


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb896653.aspx

Under file and save as, create a log and post here

copy and paste into a reply

What's running that might be using that drive?
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:13 PM

First, thanks, Louis

DaChew, thanks for jumping in.

I've done a quick test with Diskeeper - and it worked fine with system files on drive F:

Her'es your request:

Process PID CPU Description Company Name
System Idle Process 0 99.22
Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts
DPCs n/a Deferred Procedure Calls
System 4
smss.exe 864 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation
csrss.exe 920 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation
winlogon.exe 944 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation
services.exe 988 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1184 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1276 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1384 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
spoolsv.exe 1484 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation
AVGIDSAgent.exe 1564 AVG IDS application AVG
avgwdsvc.exe 664 AVG Watchdog Service AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
avgam.exe 892 AVG Alert Manager AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
avgrsx.exe 900 AVG Resident Shield Service AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
avgnsx.exe 916 AVG Network scanner Service AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
avgfws8.exe 796 AVG Firewall Service AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
AVGIDSWatcher.exe 1004 AVG IDS application AVG
bgsvcgen.exe 1592 B's Recorder GOLD Service Library B.H.A Corporation
svchost.exe 2064 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
EBstrSvc.exe 2084 eBoostr cache generator eBoostr.com
PDAgent.exe 2296 PDAgent Module Raxco Software, Inc.
wdfmgr.exe 2428 Windows User Mode Driver Manager Microsoft Corporation
avgemc.exe 2508 AVG E-Mail Scanner AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
avgcsrvx.exe 2796 AVG Scanning Core Module - Server Part AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
PDEngine.exe 3248 PDEngine Module Raxco Software, Inc.
alg.exe 3508 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1664 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
lsass.exe 1000 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation
explorer.exe 1792 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
rundll32.exe 1872 Run a DLL as an App Microsoft Corporation
avgtray.exe 1884 AVG Tray Monitor AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o.
AVGIDSUI.exe 1912 AVG IDS application AVG
AVGIDSMonitor.exe 744 AVG IDS application AVG
ctfmon.exe 1920 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation
SansaDispatch.exe 1936 Sansa Dispatcher SanDisk Corporation
eBoostrCP.exe 2036 eBoostr control panel eBoostr.com
psn.exe 216 Post-it® Software Notes: System 3M
PSNGive.exe 308 Post-it® Software Notes: GiveNote 3M
speedfan.exe 268 Almico Software (www.almico.com)
thunderbird.exe 280 Mozilla Thunderbird Mozilla Corporation
firefox.exe 3640 Firefox Mozilla Corporation
procexp.exe 3652 0.78 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals
GoogleUpdate.exe 2312 Google Installer Google Inc.

Process: System Idle Process Pid: 0

Type Name

The only process I've found out relative to F: (moving the mouse one process a time) was system restore.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:49 PM

Here's one example of iffy programs you have installed

https://msmvps.com/blogs/alunj/archive/2008...25/1645798.aspx
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Posted 29 July 2009 - 07:31 AM

Thanks a lot, DaChew

I could not have ever guessed it was SansaDispatcher!
Disabled it with CCleaner and now all is OK.




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