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#1 karl2002

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 03:24 PM

Hi my names karl. I need some advice on upgrading my pc. heres some info on my current system.

Intel 3ghz single core cpu
9600gt Nvidia
2gig ram


Ok well what i want to do is upgrade the motherboard put a new one in That supports up to 8gig of ram and supports quadcore cpus

Ram isnt a issue atm neither is the Gpu
i have around 500 to spend on upgrading this junk of junk.
WIth what ever i have left over i want to try and upgrade the ram to 4gig
Is there any other upgrades i should be considering?

Any help is greatful

Thanks
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#2 karl2002

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 03:36 PM

Also forget to include i do quite abit of gaming.
Want to atleast run crysis on high. i do quite abit of video work and graphics work too Like Vegas pro and Photoshop ect
I need to be able to multitask without my pc slowing down. For the amount of money i can spend which is 500
Thanks

Edited by karl2002, 15 May 2009 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 07:48 PM

Hmm, good question. Do you have a site that you like to buy stuff from? That might help people on our side of the pond make some recommendations. :thumbsup:

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 08:33 PM

500 = $758.05 fot the people in the US.

With all of the video stuff you want to do you'll need a killer video card !
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 10:03 PM

ALready solved One of my clan buddys solved the problem thanks though;-)

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 10:53 PM

what did you decide on? I am curious,because I want to upgrade myself.
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Posted 16 May 2009 - 12:24 AM

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....amp;subcat=1155
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....&subcat=567
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....rodid=CA-032-OC
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....rodid=TH-001-AR
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....rodid=CA-102-AN

There;-)

But im pretty much a hardcore gamer so most of that might not be right for you if you dont game much

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 02:02 AM

Very good choices, though, you will save money if you get an AMD system. Check out the AMD Phenom II X4 955, 945, or 940. Next, you need to determine which GPU to get and you will need a 64-bit OS to use 4GB or more of RAM.

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 05:30 PM

BWell if i have the money i would go intel but xp 64bit will be fine yeah? Dont like Vista think its a pile of crap to be honest with ya

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 06:32 PM

"149.49 inc VAT "

Time to flaunt my ignorance.

What is "VAT" ?
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Posted 16 May 2009 - 07:53 PM

Although I'm not the best at this sort of stuff, I took on DJBPace007 mention of an AMD system and put together something very similar to yours but also included RAM and the overall system should preform better, see what others think of this?

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2 GHz - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164047 - 206.42
Or here for 199.98 for this week - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....amp;subcat=1328

Motherboard - ASUS M4A78T-E 790GX Socket AM3 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161328 - 104.99
Also supports 16GB of RAM, I think ASUS is a good board manufacturer?

RAM - OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz/PC3-10666 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142388 - 55.07

Case - Coolermaster HAF 932 Full Tower Case - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148685 - 99.77
Just as good a Case as the Antec you picked out, heres a review of the case above as well - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/HAF_932

Power Supply - OCZ 700W Mod XStream Pro PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152008 - 79.99
Just picked the same PSU because I'm no good picking those out.

Total For AMD AM3 System - 546.24

Your Total For Intel System (Without RAM) - 540.46

I'm not an expert by no means, not really any good at this, I like to read the posts people make here a lot so this is sort of what I have picked up from reading here. That system would probably considered quite a bit better than the Intel 1 above, I'm assuming you have the Monitor, Mouse and Keyboard?
And when you eventually get to buy a Graphics Card and add a bit more RAM it should more than handle what tasks you mentioned above.

Anyway hope that helps :thumbsup:

Oh and fairjoeblue VAT is "Value Added Tax" basically equivalent to the US "Sales Tax" (Yours varies from 6% to 9% I think depending on what State your in?), Currently it is set at 15% until January 2010 when it will go back to 17.5%, Even higher rate in Germany about 21.5% there currently, highest it can be set at by EU law is 25% (Lowest by EU Law is 15%), I think there is 1 or 2 countries in Europe that does have it at 25%, ours is the lowest in Europe.

Oh just a pointer for those over the so called "pond" you could bookmark those 2 Brit sites (Ebuyer and Overclockers) since most likely others will ask, they are probably the best 2 sites or 2 most used at least, in the UK, Having read in another thread DJBPace007 mentioned not knowing any UK sites I think.

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EDIT: Just thought, What are you doing about an Operating System? Or is that sorted or not included in your 500 budget?

Also I should have added extra choices how about these below same Case and PSU, just a change of system from DDR3 and AM3 to DDR2 and AM2+

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 940 3GHz Socket AM2+ - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155714 - 158.38

RAM - OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800Mhz/PC2-6400 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049 - 39.99

Motherboard - ASUS M4A78-E 790GX Socket AM2+ - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160931 - 100.20

Total For AMD AM2+ System - 478.33 (With 4GB Of RAM) or 518.32 (With 8GB Of RAM)

Which brings you under Budget if you took 4GB of RAM and a slightly changed Processor, just offering another choice.

Edited by woodyblade, 16 May 2009 - 08:09 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2009 - 12:46 AM

Those are very good PC's Woody, they will run nicely. I thought about ebuyer and overclockers, but I was curious to see if there were other sites similar to Newegg or TigerDirect in the U.K. that would be a better, more cost-effective choice. A 25% sales tax...wow, I wonder if we would be able to close state budget deficits with that.

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 01:07 AM

Well i already have the ram in my old pc. but i dont know if the ram is ddr2 or just plain ddr but im guessing ddr2. now gpu on the other hand is a 9600gt 515mb Which will do me fine for now until i have the extra cash to upgrade it even more which i likely would have a week later or so

so i think the intel is a cool one too Also the amd is too but i dont really like AMD systems. sure i could be better off with the AMD spec. but I have the money and the spare parts already in my old pc to put into the new one until i have the cash to upgrade the gpu and the ram

karl

Also this is kinda the first time i have built a pc from scratch to beh onest. iv taken out grathics cards put new ones in same goes for wireless cards ect i know quite abit about computers just first time building a gaming pc

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 02:52 AM

AMD is good too and more cost effective, especially with the new Phenom II CPU's. For instance, the Phenom II 940 (3.0 GHz.) costs about $200 whereas a Core 2 Q9650 (3.0 GHz.) costs about $325, in the U.S. Both are quad-cores running at the same clocks using 45nm technology, the only differences are the cache (AMD and Intel processors use it differently) and the prices. That overclockers website you listed in an earlier post has the Phenom II 955 Black Edition on sale for the price of your original CPU, a Q9550 I believe. Once you leave the Core 2's and enter i7 territory, the i7's solidly beat the Phenom II's. The original Phenom's had all kinds of issues, the newer II's have fixed them. Most CPU's, unless you're buying them OEM or open-box, already have thermal paste applied to the heatsink and fan. Even aftermarket coolers have it already applied so you don't need to purchase the compound unless you're reusing an old cooler. Although you have the RAM already, double check to see if your current RAM has enough speed to be compatible with the motherboard and CPU. Oh, don't forget the OS. You can always download Windows 7 RC for free and wait until it is released commercially to purchase it.

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:15 AM

If you compare the CPU's on the chart here,

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php...200+%40+2.33GHz

You will see that the Intel Q 9550 is a tad faster then the Phenom 955 Black Edition

Intel = 4,185

AMD = 3,805
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