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Low Disk Space - I've deleted/cleaned all I can?


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#1 northWord

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 11:32 AM

Hello,

The local disk C: drive on my computer is very low on space, down to 406.1MB as I type this. I just don't know what else I can "delete" or remove from the drive.

My D: drive has 79.9 GB of free space..I have a 320 GB (Western Digital) External HD where all my photos, video and music files go, it has tons of space left too. I use CCleaner regularily, recently "purged" files from system restore, purged the "Norton Protected files" from the recycle bin, Win. disk clean-up, but none of that made much difference. Other than the usual file dumping I don't what else I can do. Could it be a bunch of hidden gunk I just don't have a clue about..? I havn't installed alot of programs, don't have video games, stick to pretty much the same blogs and sites which are "safe"..never have clicked an unsafe attachment..

There is a "temp" folder in C: that has 2 folders in it taking up 348 MB of space, (not huge-huge I realize) one says: "HP All-in-One Series Web Release" and the other reads: rw2_021_w02_enu - why all that in a folder that reads simply "temp" ? - They don't look like files I would want to delete as "temporary" .. and I'm not keen on moving program-files or system-files out of the system drive..though in ignorance I once tried that..

..I attempted to move (or copy-to?) the files from my Local Disk C: to my H: (external) drive, which didn't seem to create any problems, however a Norton Win Doctor scan since then shows a bunch of of bound-up registry error files which I think has something to do with that "move".. After a "scan for Windows problems" the results advise: "these problems should not be automatically fixed". (which means someone who knows what they're doing should "go-in").

The OS is around 6 years old, used primarily by me and occasionally my husband. I've tried to go by all the "best practices" in computer maintenance as much as I could learn on my own (many hours spent in forums like these in those early years). I still have the Norton Utilities/Sytem Doctor that came with an older version of NAV that I used to use (Norton Utilities 2002 / Ver 6.00.20g) Just recently fired it up again to monotor my system and take care of "Windows problems"

I know very little about which files are safe to delete in any part of the system folders, or about partitioning or otherwise moving files around on the sys disks..not sure which startup programs to keep..

One thing I think I did once was up the "page file" space to 3000, if I remember it was something to do with "charging-up" the speed in Photoshop (still using the free prgram that came with the OS - Elements 2.0) The Page file sensor on my Norton Sys. Dr. graphic shows 3037.5 "used or free paging file space".

Could it have anything to do with old BitDefender log files? (don't think I've ever cleared those) I've used BitDefender AV 2008 for about 2 years.

Anyway, I'll leave it at this for now. (forgive my wordiness!)

Thanks so much for any help!
Suzanne

Windows XP Home SP2
Version 2002/ 5.1.2600/ Build 2600Sony Intel[R] Pentium[R] 4CPU
2.66GHz, 1.00 GB of RAM
Processor - GenuineIntel Family 15 Model 2 2.7 GHz Stepping 7

Hard disk - 111.79 GB / 298.09 GB
Total Physical Memory - 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory - 680.02 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.90 GB

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running Win SP2 Firewall only
CCleaner/ used often
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 12:34 PM

You can try download CCleaner itll help you get rid of some files, not sure how much but give it a shot. Its free too. Helps get rid of unneeded files in your system.

Edited by RavenPhoenix, 15 May 2009 - 12:36 PM.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 12:51 PM

Thanks RavenPhoenix! - have been using CCleaner for years (as indicated).
That is a very good little yet powerful app though.

Suzanne

Edited by northWord, 15 May 2009 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 01:10 PM

I am a huge dork, i speed read through your post. Apologies.
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 02:04 PM

Just as an advisory I feel compelled to add this:

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 03:58 PM

RavenPhoenix..don't feel so dorky..I put alot of words in there! -and I'm a certified member of dorks r us ;)
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Thanks Animal, very good advice!
Just to be clear - I don't use a "registry cleaner", the WinDoctor application isn't a reg cleaner per say.. Its description reads:
"This sensor uses Norton WinDoctor to periodically scan your system for the most common types of Windows problems, such as broken links, lost files, or errors in the registry. If problems are detected, the sensor can alert you, or automatically open WinDoctor to make repairs."

After it scans it gives the choice of how to fix errors it finds, I've always "let it decide" - in the case of the registry items I've just let them sit there because the window advises: "These problems should not not be fixed automatically"
(The reg probs have only shown up since only I tried to move my C: drive)

Here's a screenshot I just took of the scan results page before repairing errors, also see my Norton Sytem Doctor desktop graphic:
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 04:48 PM

Did you try moving your my documents folder from your C drive to your D drive , you can can do this very easy by right clicking on your my documents icon ,click on properties, click on move ,it will ask you for a new address, just follow the prompts .It saved me almost 4gigs just by doing that and regs. knows where you moved it automatically. you can also move any games ,or programs to your D drive if you haven't already done that you will probably have to reinstall them manually they should still work just as good on D drive Good luck. Cheers

Edited by sleepwalker, 15 May 2009 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2009 - 11:01 PM

Hi sleepwalker,

The "My Documents" folder properties says: Target folder location: D:\My Documents - apparently I'd already moved that one. I guess I recall a couple years ago reading somewhere it was safe to move it..likely around the same time I tried to move the C: drive over to D: .. duh.

Are there other folders on my C: drive that I can safely move?
My "Documents and Settings" folder is taking up 1.56 GB, thats 18,977 files and 1768 folders..any chance I could move this one? Or several hundred of those files?

Other C: Drive Folders:
(Documents and Settings - 1.56 GB)
My Downloads - 11.7 MB
Program Files (any of them?) - 2.22 GB (1.95 on disk)
Skins2Toolkit -2,14MB (can I delete?)
SBS - 9.62 MB
temp - 348 MB (I don't get it - why this "temp" folder for 348 MB of HP Files?)
Windows - over 1.86 GB (obvious leave-alone, I think)

Incidently Animal - I did download "RegCure" a couple years ago, I'd planned to figure out how to use it but decided it was too risky, and I didn't have the time it'd take (me) to learn all I could about the Registry before goin-in..so there it sits in my system.

Thanks for your replies, I very much appreciate it, cheers!
Suzanne
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Edited by northWord, 15 May 2009 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2009 - 02:09 AM

You should be able to move any program files accept o/s System files It's just that you have to uninstall from C drive and reinstall into D drive eg: skins files,photo programs ect. when you install new programs make sure you put in D drive. Or you could change your C drive for a bigger one,fiscally swap out your D drive with your C drive if its bigger,and migrate the info ,o/s and program files over like you would if you got a new computer or just put new drive in, as thier not as expense as they used to be and its not that hard to do. Especially with the Gurus we have here at Bleeping computers,they can tell you step by step instructions better than me, I had same problem as you and i opted for a new hard drive to solve my dilemma,just depends on your budget and age of you machine, one more thing you could check your system restore if its set on max you could turn it down and gain some space back you would have fewer restore points as a result,Good luck with what you decide cheers, PS; I appreciate the brave men and women of the armed forces , and my thoughts are with them everyday,I'am just thankful and lucky to live where people are willing to do what it takes to preserve freedom and keep us safe Thank you all for Doing what you do. Sleepwalker

Edited by sleepwalker, 16 May 2009 - 02:50 AM.





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