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1st Build - Start Up/CMOS problem


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#1 shunut

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 02:45 PM

I am building my first computer. I got everything put together, XP Pro installed, updates done. If you restart the computer everything is fine. If you shut it down, the next time you put the power button, the computer will not boot. All the fans in the case come on, but nothing ever comes up on the screen. The only way I can get it to boot again is to either take the motherboard's battery or flip the CMOS jumper to the other pins, hit power, then switch it back.


When I take the battery out I get these errors on boot:

CMOS Battery Failure

CMOS Checksum Error

CMOS Time Not Set



When I flip the jumper I get:

CMOS Battery Failure


I've replaced the Motherboards battery to try to rule that out as a problem. I ran a BIOS update. Don't know what else to try.


Here is what I have in my build


Antec 300 Case
Intel DP45SG - http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/moth...SG-overview.htm
Intel Q8400 Processor
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
4 GB OCZ Platinum 4096MB PC10666 DDR3 1333MHz
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
EVGA GeForce 9500 GT 1GB PCIe w/ dual dvi
LG DVD-ROM (Model # GDR-H20N)
LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner (Model # GH22NS30)
Cooler Master 550w eXtreme Power Plus power supply

Any ideas?

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 03:22 PM

Dumb question, but did you go into the BIOS and set the date and time?
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 03:27 PM

As suggested, set the date & time, go to exit, load the defaylts , exit saving the changes.
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 03:29 PM

Yep, I have set it multiple times. As long as I don't take out the battery and reset the CMOS with the jumper, it holds the time. If I take out the battery I lose it.

As suggested, set the date & time, go to exit, load the defaylts , exit saving the changes.


I'll try that now.

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 03:35 PM

Setting the time and loading the defaults did not change anything.

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 04:36 PM

Where did you get the motherboard ?
Can you return it for a replacement ?
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 10:04 PM

Where did you get the motherboard ?
Can you return it for a replacement ?


Got if from NewEgg and I got my RMA number already. Just have to take the whole computer apart so I can mail it back.

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 11:00 PM

Good move !
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 12:55 PM

Just have to take the whole computer apart so I can mail it back.


Which is why when you get old and lazy like me, you assemble the whole thing outside the case and even do an OS instsall to make sure everything works as it should. When everything is happy, then it gets installed in the case.

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 02:23 PM

"Which is why when you get old and lazy like me, you assemble the whole thing outside the case and even do an OS instsall to make sure everything works as it should. When everything is happy, then it gets installed in the case. "

I build them the same way. :thumbsup:
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 10:25 PM

Well, I got my replacement Motherboard today. Hooked everything up. Same problem. I don't know what else to try but I'm open to anything. Could one of the other parts I'm using be incompatible with something else? Would that cause a this sort of problem?

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:09 PM

"Could one of the other parts I'm using be incompatible with something else?"

Do you have access to a stick of PC8500 [1066MHz] memory or even PC6400 [800MHz] you could try ?
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:50 PM

I don't. All my other computers are old and use DDR RAM. If you think it could possibly be a RAM issue, I could go buy some and try it.

I also found that if I remove the 24pin power connect from the motherboard and plug it back in, I can get it to boot again.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:01 AM

Been talking to some other people and most have been saying PSU. So I am going to replace that and see what happens.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:12 AM

Well after a long, tiring battle, I finally got it working. I went through 2 motherboards, 2 different types of ram, 3 power supplies and 700 billion configurations. Turns out the 550w PSU wasn't enough, even though every PSU calculator and manually calculating power needs said it would be fine. Got a Corsair 750w power supply and everything is working great. Thanks for all the help.




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