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#1 prophel91

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 04:26 PM

Im getting this comp for college, what are your guys opinion of it? I want a good gaming computer but i also need it for my studies.

Its a Dell XPS 625

SYSTEM COLOR - Black Bezel Chassis
PROCESSOR - AMD Phenom™ X4 9850+ Black Edition (2.5GHz/125W)
COOLING OPTION - XPS Standard System Cooling
WARRANTY AND SERVICE - 3Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis
OPERATING SYSTEM - Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1, 64-Bit
OFFICE SOFTWARE - Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007
MEMORY - 8GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs
HARD DRIVE - 500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 2 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive - 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
MONITOR - 20 inch S2009WFP Widescreen Digital Flat Panel Monitor
VIDEO CARD - ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB
GAMING ESSENTIALS - Killer NIC™ K1 Gaming Network Card
SOUND CARD - Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Titanium edit
SPEAKERS - Dell A525 30 Watt 2.1 Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer
KEYBOARD - No Keyboard Requested
MOUSE - No mouse
MEDIA READER - No Floppy Drive

But i also built this Alienware comp for $200 less

Aurora™

Processor: AMD® Phenom™ X4 9950 Black Edition Quad Core 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache
Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Space Black
AlienFX®: Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue
Alienware P2 Chassis Upgrades: Alienware® Standard System Cooling
Power Supply: Alienware® 750 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single 2GB GDDR5 ATI® Radeon® HD 4870 X2 – Dual GPU Technology
Memory: 4GB« Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved AMD® 790FX Motherboard
Includes PCI-Express 2.0, BIOS Overclocking Utility, and Support for AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors
Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Home Premium with Service Pack 1 – DirectX 10 Ready!
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives: Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Single High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Port
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard
Additional Monitors: 20" Dell UltraSharp™ 2009W - 1680 x 1050 (5ms) Widescreen Flat Panel
Keyboard: Standard Keyboard - Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Gaming Mouse - Razer DeathAdder™ 1800dpi 3G Infrared Gaming Mouse
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Onsite Service and 24/7 Toll-Free Phone Support
Microsoft Office Suites: Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 – Factory Installed!
Includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint and One Note
Speakers: Logitech® Z-2300 2.1 200-Watt Speakers

Edited by prophel91, 04 May 2009 - 04:27 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2009 - 06:33 PM

Welcome to bleepingcomputer!

For $200 less, I would go with the Alienware. Despite having 4gb of ram instead of 8gb (which you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference) the Alienware has a better processor, a much better graphics card, and a cool mouse!

However, the Dell does come with Microsoft office 2007, which can be a pricey program if you want it. Also, the Dell comes with a Killer NIC card which is probably bumping the price up about $200. Some swear by them, but really, they're a waste of money. You may get a bit more performance from your internet, but it's not worth the pricetag and you probably couldn't tell the difference. The Dell also comes with a sound card, but like the NIC card, may just be a waste of money, unless you have perfect pitch or you're going to be recording mixing music.

Building your own would probably be the best way to go, but if you don't want to spend the time doing it, then these systems are good.
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 06:56 PM

Awesome man thanks. Yea i would have no idea how to build my own from scratch so i let their websites help me build them. I was leaning toward the alienware anyway but now i know. :thumbsup:

Edited by prophel91, 04 May 2009 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2009 - 11:21 PM

Remember, Alienware PC's are essentially Dell computers in a different case. The processor for the PC is also a little outdated with the release of the Phenom II processors earlier this year. Also, don't bother with Killer NIC since it is largely useless. Finally, with the Aurora, you should have a 64-bit operating system if you want to use all 4GB of RAM. I echo Sterling, you would save more building your own PC but those systems are good, not spectacular.

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 11:52 PM

Ok heres a new one i made, i added a new processor, im still not sure on how to change the OS to a 64-bit system.

Aurora™

Processor: AMD Phenom™ II X4 925 2.8GHz Quad-Core (4x 512MB L2, 6MB L3 Cache)
Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Space Black
AlienFX®: Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue
Alienware P2 Chassis Upgrades: Alienware® Standard System Cooling
Power Supply: Alienware® 750 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single 2GB GDDR5 ATI® Radeon® HD 4870 X2 – Dual GPU Technology
Memory: 4GB« Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved AMD® 790FX Motherboard
Includes PCI-Express 2.0, BIOS Overclocking Utility, and Support for AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors
Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Home Premium with Service Pack 1 – DirectX 10 Ready!
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Single High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Port
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard
Additional Monitors: 20" Dell UltraSharp™ 2009W - 1680 x 1050 (5ms) Widescreen Flat Panel
Headphones, Headsets and Personal Audio Devices:Alienware TactX™ Headset
Keyboard: Gaming Keyboard - Saitek II Backlit Keyboard
Mouse: Standard Mouse - Standard Optical 3-Button Mouse with Scroll Wheel
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Onsite Service and 24/7 Toll-Free Phone Support
Microsoft Office Suites: Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 – Factory Installed!
Includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint and One Note
Speakers: Logitech® Z-2300 2.1 200-Watt Speakers

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 03:42 PM

any thing to add or change?

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:41 PM

I looked at "Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling " .

Does that case include liquid cooling ?

If it does & you are an "enthuisest" that does't mind fooling with it liquid cooling is fine.

If you are the average user that doesn't want the hassle I suggest a air cooled CPU.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:09 PM

This is going to be my first gaming Pc so I'm trying to get it set up just right. But I also need it for college this year so I need it kinds ballanced.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:43 PM

A gaming computer for a college student will be drastically overpowered for normal usage. The Aurora line does not have 64-bit, you may be able to get it if you ask Alienware. If you are going to college and moving into a dorm, you do not want watercooling given the abuse the machine will endure. You can also try other computer builders, such as Maingear, Velocity Micro, and Puget Systems. All three are good and cater to the premium PC market, I own PC's from the first two.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:58 PM

Im going to a community college for a year so i will have it here at home for the time being. Im going to game on it more than studying :thumbsup: plus my parents are paying for it so

Edited by prophel91, 05 May 2009 - 05:59 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2009 - 09:07 PM

No need to explain, I did the same thing when I went to college....then grad school. :thumbsup:

How much are you looking to spend on this PC? I ask because the boutique builders are often more expensive, but offer better service whereas Alienware is expensive and is pretty much Dell.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 10:39 PM

No More than $2500

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 02:00 AM

For $2500 you could build yourself a high-end system with many enhancements and still have money to spare. That said, for that kind of cash, you should go to a boutique builder instead of a glorified Dell Alienware PC. Below is a configuration if you want to build it your own, the process is relatively simple if you look up how to do it and perform some research beforehand.

Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - This is a very good looking case. Full tower cases are preferred for performance systems given the sheer size of graphics cards. $179

Motherboard: ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Given your high budget, you can afford a high end motherboard for high end processors. The beauty of this motherboard is that it will allow for both Crossfire and SLI. $249

CPU: Intel Core i7 940 Nehalem 2.93GHz - This is one of Intel's latest CPU's. This one will kick the crap out of the Phenom and will outperform a standard Phenom II. $544

RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory - Your motherboard uses DDR3 and can handle 12GB of that new memory. Buy two of these kits to fill up all your memory banks. $97 per kit. (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W - Corsair makes some of the best power supplies around. $239 (Before $40 mail-in rebate)

Graphics Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1180-AR GeForce GTX 285 - The 285 rivals the 4870X2, put two of these in your PC under an SLI configuration and you'll have a ridiculously powerful graphics setup for games. I suggest buying two of these. $349 per card (Before $30 mail-in rebate)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS - Fast and there is plenty of space. $74

Optical Drive: LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - This will read and burn most disc-based media. $24

Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit - You need a 64-bit operating to use 4GB or more of RAM. $99

Total Price: $2270 (Before Rebates)
You can purcase a decent monitor and good speakers with what is left over and be near or within budget. If you want to save even more cash, you can go for a high-end AM3 system. It won't be as powerful, but will be better the Alienware.

Edited by DJBPace07, 06 May 2009 - 02:02 AM.

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