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#1 Roger Stace

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:13 AM

HI guys

I have just recently purchased a motherboard , CPU and RAM,

My Specs


ECS 662/1066T-M2 Mainboard
256 MB DDR 2 533 Mhz RAM
Samsung 160 GB HDD
Samsung DVD RW Drive
Sound Card
VGA Card - FX1150
3.0 Ghz CPU

I have removed the sound card , for testing purposes. When I put the PC together , I Started the PC and will boot normally for 3 tries and will freeze , I will have to switch the PC off and on for it to do the same. I have the HDD and DVD RW disconnected.

Please help

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:25 AM

At what point does it freeze ?

What brand is the memory?
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:27 AM

HI , the ram is a Adata from my other machine, It freezes when I want to do setup or it wants to boot or sometimes in the bios.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:45 AM

If you have a different memory stick you could try, say a 512MB stick, see it it fixes the problem.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:53 PM

HI

I have just discoverd in the AMI bios that the CPU temp is 100 degrees centigrade after a few minutes , can it be that the thermal paste could be old?

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:14 PM

If the heatsink was on the CPU when you got the motherboard there is a possibility of the thremal paste being old & dried out.

There is also a couple of other possibilities.
Too much thermal compound could have been used.
It needs to be applied in a VERY thin coat.
Too much will make it act as a insulater & cause the CPU to run hot.

The heatsink may not be completely flat on the CPU.

The heatsink fan may not be working properly to cool the heatsink.

Improper air flow through the case.

If you have some thermal paste handy unplug the computer
Remove the heatsink from the CPU
Use a piece of paper towel & rubbing alcohol to clean the CPU & heatsink
Put a VERY thin coat of thermal compound on the CPU & reinstall the heatsink.

Sometimes getting a Socket 775 heatsink on properly can be a little tricky.

To remove the heatsink take a small flat blade screwdriver & turn the heatsink pins counterclockwise
pull up on the pins to release them
[don't get carried away with the pulling]
Remove the heatsink

You need to reset the heatsink pins before reattaching the heatsink
While pulling up [gently] on the pins turn them clockwise until the slot is pointing out away from the heatsink
[make sure all 4 are done]
Put the heatsink on the motherboard making sure all 4 mounts are flush to the motherboard
Use 1 hand to hold the heatsink in the center of the fan so it doesn't "kick up" at a angle when the pins are set
Push a pin down until you hear it click in to place
next do the one diagonal to it
[You want to set the pins in a X pattern]

Once all 4 are set examine the "legs" to see if all are flush with the motherboard
Turn the unit on with the case open & observe the fan to see if it is spinning properly.
Check the temp .
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:03 AM

Hi

I took my PC into the computer store and they applied thermal paste on it. It was going from 100 degrees to 48 in the begining and now is soring up to 75 degrees centigrade in 15 minutes

Why?

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Edited by Roger Stace, 19 April 2009 - 06:04 AM.


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Posted 19 April 2009 - 10:14 AM

What kind on CPU do tou have ?

[Celeron, Pentium 4, Pentium D, Core2Duo, Etc]

If you have a CPU that has the fan control feature, or speedstepping, your fan isn't turnong fast enough , the heatsink isn't installed properly, or you have the wrong heatsink.

The only other thing I caqn think of is restricted air flow in the case.
Try running it with the side cover off & see if the temp goes down.

How are you getting the CPU temp ?
In the BIOS or from a utility in Windows ?
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 10:33 AM

Hi , I have got a Pentuim 4 HT technology Presott 775 CPU

The Case I have got is an ISONIC Cube case

I have got the sides off and glued another fan in there.



CPU Temp: in BIOS



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Posted 19 April 2009 - 11:51 AM

"I have got a Pentuim 4 HT technology Presott 775 CPU

The Case I have got is an ISONIC Cube case"


A "cube" case isn't a real good choice for a Prescott CPU.
Prescotts are notorious for running hot & a small restrictive case with poor airflow simply isn't a good choice.

Having had some expierence with Pentium 4 Prescott CPU's I can tell you that getting one to run reasonable cool in a midtower case with good air flow can be a challange.

As for putting another fan in the case, fan placement is critical to proper cooling.
If you put the fan in the wrong place you can create "negative" air flow causing a "hot spoy" or possibly even cancel any airflow through the case.
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 12:01 PM

Hi , This Isonic cube case comes with one giant case fan , I have mounted one inlet mini fan and one Giant fan under the cdrom

Here is a link to the ISONIC cube http://www.isonic.co.za/cases_CHASSIS_ONLY.htm

Do you think I must go for watercooling?

The current CPU temp is 53 degrees Centigrade

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Roger

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 12:45 PM

It's not about how many fans you have or how big they are.
It's a matter of too small of a case having too little air flow.

Keep in mind in that tiny case you have everything bunched together & nothing is getting much airflow to cool it so EVERYTHING is heating up the inside of the case.
You are trying to cool a CPU with heated air.

As a matter of personal opinion, dump the shoebox & get a case ! :thumbsup:

Seriously, A "cube" is absolutly the worse choice possible to try & run a Prescott CPU in.

As for water cooling , you simply don't have the room in that case for a water cooling setup.

BTW, 53C isn't really all that hot for a Prescott.
Since you just had fresh thermal compund put on the CPU/heatsink give it a couple of weeks.
The temp should drop 5-7C when the thremal compound "cures" .
If it drops to abot 45C at idle that's pretty decent for a Prescott.

Edited by fairjoeblue, 19 April 2009 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 11:56 AM

Hi , I didn't have so much trouble with my otherboard in this cube , by the way , my friend has the same cube and He's is fine , he even modified it.

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Roger

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 12:13 PM

"I didn't have so much trouble with my otherboard in this cube "

The motherboard isn't the issue.
The CPU is.
Prescott CPU's are notorious for running hot.
You have a type of CPU that is known for running hot in a small enclosure.
If you have a add-in video card add that to the heat inside the case.
It's hard to get a CPU that has a reputation for running hot to run cool if you are trying to cool it with hot air.
If you want to test it out take the motherboard out of the case & run it.
If the CPU runs cooler the case is too small.
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 01:19 PM

Hi ,

What kind of gaming cases should I buy to replace this one then?

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