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#1 phawgg

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 05:48 PM

For the sake of general information I'm posting this chronology of events.

8-16-04
7:13:00pm winxp pro installation
7:13:30pm System Restore Checkpoint set
8-17-04
1:49 am installed winxp SP1 (CD)
3:18 am Windows Update V4
3:18 am KB 840315
3:19:12am KB 842773
3:20:16am KB 841873
3:20:31am KB 839643
3:20:45am KB 840374
3:22:47am KB 839645
3:25:20am KB 837001
3:28:41am KB 828741
3:30:07am KB 835732
3:31:08am KB 828035
3:31:55am KB 825119
3:32:43am Q 828026 windows media player update
3:38:26am KB 826939
3:39:30am KB 824105
3:40:18am KB 823182
3:41:08am KB 824141
3:47:57am Q 819696

8:14:23am Windows Update V4
8:15:40am KB 826942
8:16:23am KB 822603
8:17:19am KB 821253
8:18:57am KB 817778
8:20:03am Q 814995
8:20:52am Q 322001
8:23:16am Q 327979
8:24:07am KB 810243

9:50:14am Windows Update V4
9:57:52am Windows Media Player 9 Series

10:07:41am Windows Update V4
10:08:33am Q 828026 "windows media player"

10:43:59am Windows Update V4
10:44:38am KB 837272 "windows media player"
10:44:56am Windows Media Format 9 Series Runtime Setup

10:49:05am Windows Update V4
11:17:17am DirectX 9.0

12:04:50pm created restore point "fully updated"

8-19-04
1:46:24am Windows Update V4
1:46:29am KB 839643 "DirectX 9"

Add or Remove Programs List:

Advanced Networking Pack for Windows XP
HighMat Extension to Microsoft Windows XP CD Writing Wizard
Internet Explorer Q 876801
Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1
Microsoft Data Access Components KB 870669
Microsoft Windows Journal Viewer
Outlook Express Q 823353
Windows Media Player Hotfix see KB 837272 for more info
Windows Media Player Hotfix see Q 828026 for more info
Windows XP Hotfix KB 820291
" " " KB 821253
" " " KB 822603
" " " KB 823182
" " " KB 824105
" " " KB 824141
" " " KB 825119
" " " KB 826939
" " " KB 826942
" " " KB 828035
" " " KB 828741
" " " KB 835732
" " " KB 839643
" " " KB 839645
" " " KB 840315
" " " KB 840374
" " " KB 841873
" " " KB 842773

Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) see KB 810243 for more info
" " " " Q 322011
" " " " Q 327979
" " " " Q 814995
" " " " Q 819696

8-19-04 to 8-21-04

Spent time installing programs

Spybot S&D
Sygate Firewall Free
Firefox
MaxBlast
RegSupreme

Spent time editting services running, processes running at startup,
Researching Event Viewer>Applications (127 events)
Researching Event Viewer>Systems (similar number of events)
Other Tasks & Online Stuff.... monitoring the system in action, basically.

and encountered some problems as a result of doing so (not surprising, I'm no pro)

I determined that, for the sake of benchmarking, C:\ contained windows OS related and only 5 other programs (see above) at the present time:

Documents & Settings Folder 115.0 MB
Program Files 93.8 MB
WINDOWS 1.33 GB
WU Temp (1.93 MB)

and added the Microsoft Office 2000 programs I use

Excel Word Access related office tools

Back to Windows Update for Office Updates

but first, 3 more critical updates are on the list again:

Windows XP Hotfix KB 839643
Windows XP Hotfix KB 810217
Security Update for Windows XP or WinXP SP1 Internet Information Services 5.1 (IIS)
this was no doubt due to the fact I hadn't installed the additional XP program Microsoft .NET Framework at the installation and had updated to the 1.1 version without it...
also I had used system restore to roll back to a restore point just after the installation of the first 5 programs.

Since this roll-back point had not solved my problem, I chose the point I had set and named "fully updated" I essentially uninstalled all programs except Microsoft Windows Programs and Updates before continuing on...

I continued to Office Updates:

8-21-04
8:00:33pm Office 2000 Professional SP3

followed by others
KB 830347
KB 830349
no KB no. Office 2000 Update 12-18-02
KB 824993
KB 826292
KB 822035

9:55pm began download WindowsXP KB 835935-SP2-ENU.exe

8-22-04
11:38am finished download of 274.2 MB (13hrs 40min)

12:06pm Installation Complete

With exclusively Microsoft products with updates now installed, (some other modem & system/display drivers) and only My Documents folders & data files, misc. folders and my Downloads Folder on my second disk drive, I inspected the system:

Add or Remove Programs List:

HighMat Extension to Microsoft WindowsXP CD Writing Wizard 2.14 MB
HSP Modem Drivers
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 36.83 MB
Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Professional 291.00 MB
Microsoft Windows Journal Viewer 3.59 MB
Nvidia Drivers
Nvidia Windows 2000/XP Display Drivers
Nvidia Windows 2000/XP nForce Drivers
Windows Service Pack 2

20 fewer on the list

C:\ now contains exclusively Microsoft Windows Products:

Documents & Settings 104 MB
Inetpub (678 kb)
Program Files 321 MB
WINDOWS 2.15 GB
WU Temp 1.93 MB

the downloads folder for some reason was slimmed down in the process, also. 79 application setup files were reduced to 25.

those remaining are:
  • 3Dmark2001se
  • aboutBuster
  • aida32
  • aida32ee
  • amphetadesk
  • CDVD
  • command line process viewer
  • devil-linux
  • electron microscope
  • eraser53
  • get service
  • google api
  • hosts
  • IE-Spyad
  • irfanview
  • jview
  • lads
  • mcafeestinger
  • memt86
  • msfastconv
  • omniquad
  • sillysot software
  • startup list
  • startup tracker
  • systeminternals utilities
those I'll have to use my backup CD to reload (and my point is)
Do Backup
  • ad-aware se
  • avg free
  • a2 free
  • ace backup
  • adobe reader
  • bit torrent
  • cleanup
  • cmdpowertoy
  • cookiewall
  • cwshredder
  • dbpoweramp
  • dcombobulator
  • everesthome
  • FAH
  • folding@home
  • feedreader
  • flashplayer
  • google
  • hijackthis
  • hostfix
  • installrite
  • itc
  • javacool
  • javaruntime
  • jv16powertools
  • leaktest
  • limewire
  • mozilla1.7
  • mozilla firefox 9.2
  • msbaselinesecurityanalyzer
  • msbootvis
  • msdoomcleaner
  • msinstallcleaner
  • msxml
  • mynetwatchman
  • nocharge
  • pcdoc
  • perfectprocess
  • pestpatrol
  • regsupreme
  • regunhide
  • sandra2004sp2
  • shootthemessenger
  • spybot s&d
  • startuptracker3
  • sygate firewall
  • ultimate trouble shooter
  • unplug&pray
  • winrar
  • xchat
  • zonelab free
Now the work begins (as if the previous isn't a lot of work to expect a customer to do to maintain the product) Not all of the above programs belong installed again, but those I choose to try will or will not cause compatability problems. All have been tried at least once. Ones that did not perform well initially are long gone. Why are these 54 just...gone?
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Posted 22 August 2004 - 11:13 PM

Hey Mate!

Thanks for sharing that time line of all the work you did.

It will definitely help me with some things I'm doing currently,
though there are a lot of items there that I'd not choose to have
on my system, nor would I suggest that others "play with".
I'm helping some "seniors" with home systems.
We try to keep it all "simple".

Just out of my own curiosity - have you ever experienced "Frozen Fog"?

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 11:25 PM

No, Frozen Fog is new to me. Sounds intriguing... The work is progressing, and I thought I'd start with the whole shootin' match and carefully prune from there. Egads, I don't have even a tiny percent on my machine that I used to have and I'm startin' to miss my usual programs and MP3's. :thumbsup:

My thought is that I'll run with Microsoft and exchange things on a daily basis 'til I'm comfortable with the way the programs are coexisting. :inlove:

I do feel there is a place for Linux in my life, too. :trumpet:

I await furthor word on phrozen phawgg! :flowers:
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Posted 23 August 2004 - 12:13 AM

Don't know about "phrozen phawgg!" - sounds like a "mental condition" to me...

But, "rime", sometimes misspelled as "ryme", is "an accumulation of
granular ice tufts on the windward sides of exposed objects that is
formed from supercooled fog or clouds..." = frozen fog.

One finds this while trekking in great mountains or in very northern climes...
or in stories of "elders" when they had to walk 22 miles to school every day...

Re the Windows rebuild. I've really simplified my own systems to what
I need to & want to do also. Have dumped off most all of the other garbage'.

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Edited by KoanYorel, 23 August 2004 - 12:14 AM.

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 02:45 AM

I have used rime in crossword puzzles, and not known it to be frozen fog. I was sorta hopin' it was a drink that only a bartender knew the particulars about or maybe some highly unique elemental state just recently discovered in a labratory of some richly funded research corporation. Oh, and you're right...phrozen phawgg is a much dreaded psychological disorder found predominantly in persons struggling with a genetic tendency or predisposition towards a delusional perception of having an ability to comprehend modern phenomena such as the use of personal computers.

On a lighter note, a lighter Winxp with specific functionality has been a goal of mine since I rather reluctantly left the trustyWin98 that I at least had some familiarity with. The only training per say in computer operation I've had was at a company called Catapult and it was geared towards making corporate computer users more proficient at basically the Microsoft Office programs. I always felt you needed your own PC to really get into knowing what you are doing, at that has come late for me. Better late than never, I guess. (at the time I took the classes, win98 was just released, and I got my PC last year) The tutorials have been very helpfull, at least I don't need a computing dictionary just to get through every other sentence. :flowers:

So, maybe you'd be willing to share furthor your own customizations, techniques and reasons why? I'll be doing the same as I go along. :thumbsup:
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Posted 23 August 2004 - 07:49 AM

A friend tells me the "Ryme" is in fact an Adult Beverage.
A mix similar to a Margarita but with sugar around the
glass and a semi-sweet lime-lemon mixture/soda upon
which a Canadian whiskey is floated. Don't know for
sure as never had two let alone one. It probably was
produced in a northern research station due to sheer
boredom of the occupants...

If I claim to be "suffering" from the "phrozen phawgg"
disorderly psychological system, can I get some serious
research funding to help me with my age/genetic tendency
to un-comprehend current and modern phenomena in the
use of personal computers?

In 1949 I was introduced to personal computer use.
I was taught how to count on an Abaccus using chop-sticks. (No Joke!)

In 1969 while working for a branch of the U.S. Gov't,
I had one of the first "Personal Computers".
The size of a large apartment refridgerator, it had three
removable disks. Two were for the operating systems,
one for data storage - and sometimes even retrieval too!
If one removed a disc before it had stopped spinning,
one could lose the offending arm... let alone all the data...
(Hight-speed spinning top syndrome. SAVIN Corp made it.)

I spent another twenty years more or less in Gov't service
using the pro-ported best of the rest and going through all
kinds of programming schooling and machine building, etc.

After I retired, I rarely touched a "machine" unless it was
to complete a paper working toward my "Masters".
Most of these systems were from the "Fruit" manufacturer.

I came back to "bytes" with the beta release of XP.
I still have an old 486 clone with the beta install.
But I now have a multi-board, multi-hard drive,
"multi" machine (except it won't cut grass no matter
how it's programed.)

I believe I'll trade it in on a new Sony Pocket Rocket - soon...
one can ride that too... correct?

I've learned more from you guys & gals than I'd
probably be able to pass along to you.

If you ask a question, I'll respond if I can...
If I don't know the answer to the question,
I'll tell you - "I Don't Know..."

You'll note, that I only comment or interject
when I know something for sure (or think I do. Yea, right he says).

I'm running XP Home, but I've cut out everything I don't use:
All games; all the home office items except Excel,
which I do use; most all the other data manipulation programs;
except word pad - which I do use; all the media garbage
as I use a Lexmark and/or Hp printer; I only use the
basic sound repro system as I've another sound system
to rely on and integrate as needed; all the other media junk.
In short if you don't need it, or use it at least once a week
- dump it!!! Or put it on an Executable CD.

One hard drive is a Unix system for my work (such as it is).
The other drive has the Xp and a Linux partition - which
I'm learning about still, and will dump "Billy Goats' Garbage"
when I'm ready to solo...

So, what else can I tell you? I'm still a novice...

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 11:01 AM

:flowers: Readin' your reply... we could certainly try to get some assistance with the phrozen phawg disorder! I think first we should only call it PPD, and make it hard to find any de-cypherable definition. Then compile a list of symptoms. Most any will do for starters. A good part of the research (and dollars that fuel it) can be spent determining which are legitimate PPD and which are simply the effects of aging, over-use of rime marg's, non-specific vision & hearing problems or caused by the new oil crisis.

Then we should exclude anyone under 50. Try to enact legislation. Appeal the Supreme Court. Go live on Larry King & get Oprah involved...maybe Dr. Phil, too.

Perhaps we should immediately delegate authority. While you work on the "Global Warming/Ozone Layer" angles, I can pursue the "No Middle-Ager Left Behind" and any potential "Theological Ramifications".

Let's not forget how serious this could be in the hands of Islamic Terrorists. There's quite a lot of money in Homeland Security to spread around, too.

United We Stand, Computing We Sit!! :trumpet:

In 1949 I was introduced to personal computer use.
I was taught how to count on an Abaccus using chop-sticks. (No Joke!)


That explains why you are comfortable using the Excel program. (one of my favs, also)

If you ask a question, I'll respond if I can...
If I don't know the answer to the question,
I'll tell you - "I Don't Know..."


Refreshingly simple groundrules. With that kind of disarming honesty we can operate without Lawyers. With that in mind, I'll eject the CD I just made for a coaster and replace it with my cup of coffee, roll up my sleeves and get started.

Now, what was that question I was going to ask you? :thumbsup: Please be patient, it'll come back to me...
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Posted 25 August 2004 - 08:46 AM

A technically advanced member was kind enough to comment on this experiment. I've taken the liberty of linking to it:

http://closedsocket.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=96#96

Which led me to another "chronology"

I botched installation of iTunes anyway, so following the advice and this time keeping in mind both the answer to my "disappearing partial files" and my still unanswered question about system restore and installation (even though last time a problem occured, I'd used MaxBlast and swapped primary drives to create the error)... I decided to leave both drives in and system restore ON.

I changed the BIOS boot order to:
  • 1st Boot - CD-ROM
  • 2nd Boot - HDD 0
  • 3rd Boot - Floppy
Chose FDisk and wiped the primary drive, leaving the secondary as is, re-formatted and loaded the OS.

8-25-04
12:28:04am... Winxp pro installation
12:38:02am... System Restore Checkpoint set

Program Files at this point are:
  • Common files
  • ComPlus Applications
  • Internet Explorer
  • Messenger
  • Microsoft Frontpage
  • Movie Maker
  • Msn
  • Msn Gaming Zone
  • Net Meeting
  • Online Services
  • Outlook Express
  • Windows Media Player
  • xerox
The primary drive has 3 folders:
  • Documents and Settings
  • Program Files (contents above)
  • WINDOWS
I checked the secondary drive, both partitions, and found no folders were missing anything. 1 file not in a folder had disappeared, though. The one that had taken me 13 hours and 40 minutes to download:
WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe was gone.

Well, I had experienced some difficulty in making a CD back-up of it. I normally have no problem creating an image, recording, verifying and if it's important enough, adding a test run at the end of the burning process. 5 steps. That wouldn't work, so I settled for a 2 step process...create image & record it. Just in case I botched the re-load. So that CD was what I'd have to go with or face another marathon download (skip it and fail was an option, too)

1:31:08am... Modem drivers & system/display drivers loaded.

I set up the ISP connection, and prepared to go back to Windows Updates.

1:50:28am... Installed winxp SP 1 (CD)
2:05:35am... Installed winxp SP 2 (the CD I'd made worked flawlessly)

2:55:37am... Installed Office 2000 pro...Word, Excel & Access only

Checking the task manager... 21 processes
  • explorer.exe Administrator 16,304k
  • wscntfy.exe Administrator 1,992k
  • PV92Tray.exe Administator 3,032k
  • taskmgr.exe Administrator 3,792k
  • pctspk.exe Administrator 2,900k
  • svchost.exe Administrator 1,784k
  • svchost.exe LOCAL SERVICE 4,212k
  • alg.exe LOCAL SERVICE 3,228k
  • svchost.exe NETWORK SERVICE 3,832k
  • svchost.exe NETWORK SERVICE 2,596k
  • System Idle Process SYSTEM 16k
  • System SYSTEM 220k
  • smss.exe SYSTEM 460k
  • csrss.exe SYSTEM 3,712k
  • winlogon.exe SYSTEM 3,712k
  • services.exe SYSTEM 3,796k
  • lsass.exe SYSTEM 960k
  • svchost.exe SYSTEM 4,392k
  • svchost.exe SYSTEM 24,432k
  • spoolsv.exe SYSTEM 4,248k
  • nvsvc32.exe SYSTEM 1,404k
Add/Remove Programs now lists:
  • HSP Modem Drivers
  • Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Professional (98 MB)
  • nVidia Display Drivers
  • nVidia nForce Drivers
  • Windows XP Service Pack 2 (.13 MB)
Back to Windows Update (Office Tab) where for the second time I needed to load activeX (the new thing at Updates to enable the page's services)

4:19:45am... Installed "software distribution service" (Office SP3 & 5 add'l updates)

about 5:00am... rebooted to BIOS and reset the boot sequence.

Came here to post so a more accurate benchmark can be seen.

oh, Event viewer:
  • Applications Errors 101 events (5)WinMgmt warnings (2)EventSystem warnings
  • System Errors 245 events (1) NetBT warning (7) atapi errors (7) disk warnings
I hope this will help others draw their own conclusions about the "big" update.

It seems to operate very well, but a lot of work lies ahead in loading non-microsoft applications.

:thumbsup: I'M TIRED.
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Posted 27 August 2004 - 02:05 AM

8-26-04... monitoring System Restore
11:50:01am System Checkpoint
..1:32:21pm Spybot S&D Spyware Removal
..6:29:21pm Installed Java 2 Runtime SE v1.4.2_05

Event viewer - Applications.. 171 total
11:52:22am.. error.. Application Hang.. (101).. 1002
12:00:41pm.. warn.. userenv.. ( ).. 1517
..1:03:13pm.. warn.. MsiInstaller.. ( ).. 1004
..1:03:16pm.. warn.. MsiInstaller.. ( ).. 1004
..1:03:52pm.. warn.. MsiInstaller.. ( ).. 1004

Event Viewer - System.. 585 total
12:02:51pm.. error.. atapi.. ( ).. 9
12:03:05pm.. error.. atapi.. ( ).. 9
12:03:22pm.. error.. atapi.. ( ).. 9

Today began sorta roughly:
problems
A moderate amount of site surfin' and offline activity...installation of Firefox around noon (IE really gets me down) followed by installation of Spybot, this time temporarily without SD Helper (for IE) or Tea Timer Helper (system monitoring) for simplicity's sake while checking things out and runnin' in the SP2. I did download the updates...Detection Rules 8-20-04, English Help 8-20-04 & English Help (Tea Timer) add-on 5-25-04

To get into the bleeepingcomputer chat, using Firefox & the Web Chat Server, I downloaded the Java Runtime Environment. Not all was smooth as silk, but so far the experiment is not a failure. Couple of system freezes though, requiring a reboot to free it up.
Consistant recognition of both drives throughout the day is good news. :thumbsup:

Edited by phawgg, 27 August 2004 - 02:11 AM.

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 12:13 AM

8-27-04... monitoring System Restore
11:43:15am..Installed BHA B's Recorder Gold 5.20

Event viewer - Applications..199 total
no errors or warnings today

Event viewer - System.. 771 total
3:39:19am..error.. atapi.. ()..9
12:39:19pm..error.. atapi.. ()..9

The application installed is the CD Burning program provided with purchase of a Sony CD-RW and used for burning audio CD's, data CD's, hard drive backup CD's, ripping and other tasks. Windows OS does not neccessarily operate the CD-RW optimally. In fact, inconsistancies with it's operation are in evidence.

11:29am Inserted the CD BHA software. It would not install. Msg: "You need to be an Administrator to do this" [I am] I click OK and the setup window opens and I watch it sit at 0% for a couple minutes before I discover the cursor doesn't move with the mouse. Machine Is Frozen. hmmm, I re-boot

Since I installed OS, and from the start I was the "generic" Administrator with password approval I'm dis-satisfied. I had followed prompts to set up another user. In User Groups. I set up my user name...with administrator group full approval & no password was required. When I'd done that, the next thing was showing both icons & names at the welcome screen. Both logged on. I chose the user name so I wouldn't have to type in my password at each re-boot. From that point on, the welcome screen would not give me either name. It just shows, then changes to desktop with my user name on the top of the start menu instead of Administrator. OK, that's good. Except, all the stuff I'd done in the first days...passwords to this site, Favorites in IE, etc. need to be re-done. Because going back to User Group only shows my user name as administrator and a unused guest account. Where's the logic in that, I think. The C:\Documents and settings show the Administrator file full off data, but no "easy access" I have no option re: logon switch users anymore. Why?
Oh, well, if all else fails...and I am facing a deadline...reboot.

Once again the same "you need to be..." msg OK (the only button) and the cycle begins again. Setup stuck on zero. Not frozen this time, though, so I reboot.

This time when the setup status box is up, I get a "next" after the admin blurb and can proceed. An option to register exists and since I have already, and need to get it confirmed again, I connect to my ISP. At the site, things have changed...v7.0 is out and well, i get what I need after a bit. Reboot.

I return to a popup, new device... You need to reboot. Finally I can insert the key code to unlock the MP3 encoding feature I'd paid $15.00 for. Done & close prog.

12:05:00 a CD in the unit, windows auto-opens a popup box: New F:\ several options about what to do...I choose "open new folder to view contents." a box is provided to check if so desired... "always do the selected action: OK or Cancel " I may not want to open a mixed music and data CD always, but I check the box anyway In fact, I was looking for a folder that had information about a form I submit to the government on a semi-annual basis and needed the last one I'd done for a deadline today. So I had several CD's where it might be. (I'm not that well organized always) Not on the first one, so I tried another one. Sat and watched the screen, it didn't auto-open. So I went control panel->F:\ ->open. Several CD's in and the action varied. It auto-opened 2x out of 5x. Well, I guess we're gettin' there slowly. I need to check my spare 60GB hard drive sittin' unplugged-in between the two working ones (which, BTW, have been consistantly showing up now in My Computer list...still good news)

12:17:40pm shut down, remove side panel, disconnect power cable & cable from the secondary drive, replace them into the spare one, plug case power back in, re-boot and now I have that drive as my secondary.

12:21:00pm I'm working offline moving files, etc.

12:45:00pm I need another folder not on that drive, naturally, and 3 more CD's in the tray, 2 slightly different auto-open msg boxes and 1 more non-performance, I have to manually start the CD from My Computer. Well...typical windows initialization B***s**t if you ask me.

No problems shutting down or starting...each time quick and consistant and the event viewer log confirms the errors & warning are decreasing dramatically. A few hours of mixed operation between 1:00pm and now (10:00pm) Enough for the day. I'll play around the 'net with care...No additional firewall up yet, no AV in yet and I'm tiring of 4 popups at each start/connect to ISP already so that'll be next. Later.
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Posted 29 August 2004 - 12:24 AM

8-28-04

System Restore
11:50:22am.. Spybot S&D Spyware Removal
12:14:41pm.. Software Distribution Service 2.0

Event Viewer - Application .. 224 total
9:22:51am to 8:15:16pm .. no warns or errors

Event Viewer - System .. 889 total
1:02:19am to 12:55:09pm .. no warns or errors
8:09:07pm to 8:22:09pm .. no warns or errors

I installed the AVG Free anti-virus program. (I copied it from CD to HDD, and recovered my registration number from my e-mail folder.) Updated it at 11:40am.
Ran the complete test... 21,014 files total. C:\ about 19GB's D:\ about 21GB's.
No Virus Detected.

I used HuckerJ's tip to add send to: downloads and cleared my desktop. No icons.

Start->All Programs->Spybot->Advanced Mode->Settings->File Sets and checked boxes to include usage tracks and tracks.uti. Ran the scan. Results:
  • Cache..1
  • Common Dialogs 1
  • Cookie 1
  • DSO Exploit 5
  • Internet Explorer 6
  • Log 20
  • MS Direct 3D 1
  • MS Direct Draw 1
  • MS Mgmt Console 1
  • MS Media Player 9
  • MS Office 9 (Word) 1
  • MS Office 9 3
  • MS Wordpad 1
  • Windows Explorer 1
  • Windows Media SDK 6
  • Windows : Opens With 1
  • Windows 1
64 problems fixed, 1 remains. (I opted to not have spybot run at the next start to remove the 1 log item that can not be cleared while OS is in use.)

Task Manager open. Spybot minimized. 21 processes. 2 I wanted to check.

So I went online to "Answers That Work" homepage->Task List->wuauclt.exe is the Auto Updates for MS. OK to turn off. nvsvc32.exe is an unneeded nVidia service and could be disabled and stopped at control panel->performance and maintenance->administrative tools->services->Nvidia Driver Helper->r-click properties.

Back to Spybot->Tools->System Startup: unchecked the following:
  • HK_LM: Run NvCplDaemon
  • HK_LM: Run nwiz
  • HK_LM: Run PCTVOICE
  • HK_LM: Run PV92TRAY
  • HK_LM: Run SunJava UpdateSched
    Startup (common) MS Office.Ink
That leaves: HK_LM: Run AVG_CC (presently having anti-virus protection at startups)
Spybot->Settings->Ignore Products->Security Tab-> checked DSO Exploit so it will not show up in scans. Exit Spybot.

So...control panel->Security Center shows Firewall ON, Anti-virus ON, Updates OFF now.

I connected to Windows Updates->custom install...search found 3 updates (and off to the right "Turn On Auto Updates" now appears) I chose 1 more.
  • Windows XP HighMAT Support in CD Writing Wizard 1.80 MB
Defragmented the C:\ and shut down. Restarted a little after 8:00.

Edited by phawgg, 29 August 2004 - 12:34 AM.

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 03:03 AM

8-29-04
ah, heck, It's the Sabbath. Dipped my toes in and out of the PC today...generated no additional warning or alerts anywhere in Event viewer. No freezes, sneezes or burbs. No really tough megaapplications of the non-MS variety or abundance of little helpful ones, either, yet. Still haven't got the personal firewall of my choice up and...well...I don't care. Monday, Monday you can't trust that day...maybe by Tuesday Afternoon I'll have a couple more media players in and see if they get cranky with each other as I play the Moody Blues. Always the CD burning apps and their multi-taskin' to run through the paces...and then there is that move the system restore files to an other than OS partition location thats got to be looked into furthor since I've never done that...hmmm. I don't want to get started with all the apps loadin' and data file replacement quite yet. Even though the Ideal Setup will continue to elude me, as in letting the C:\ Program Files exist with the OS as I guess is a common mistake, I think there are some steps I can take to get closer to something that will be better than before. Enuf for now.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 08:03 PM

8-31-04

I think I've soured my test somewhat. I think it happened because of an 8-27-04 move.

12:17:40pm shut down, remove side panel, disconnect power cable & cable from the secondary drive, replace them into the spare one, plug case power back in, re-boot and now I have that drive as my secondary.

That was done without disabling system restore. That drive was being monitored by system restore, so what is the effect of an interuption on it? It may not be immediately in evidence.

8-29-04 1:00:53pm System Checkpoint
8-30-04 6:24:51pm System Checkpoint

Event Viewer Application now 318 events
8-30-04.. 6:43:35pm.. error.. Application Hang.. (101).. 1002
8-30-04.. 6:43:59pm.. error.. Application Hang.. (101).. 1002
8-30-04.. 6:45:47pm.. warn.. Userenv.. none.. 1517
8-31-04..12:00:22am.. warn.. Userenv.. none.. 1517
8-31-04.. 9:21:43am.. error.. Application Hang.. (101).. 1002
8-31-04.. 9:22:50am.. error.. Application Hang.. (101).. 1002
8-31-04.. 9:23:04am.. error.. Application Hang.. (101).. 1002
8-31-04.. 1:54:07pm.. warn.. MsiInstaller.. none.. 1001

Event Viewer System now 1,344 events
8-30-04.. 4:49:15pm.. warn.. disk..none.. 51
8-30-04.. 4:50:33pm.. error.. atapi..none..15
8-30-04.. 4:50:33pm.. error.. disk.. none.. 11
8-30-04.. 4:50:51pm.. error.. atapi.. none.. 9
8-30-04.. 4:50:51pm.. warn.. disk.. none.. 51
8-30-04.. 4:51:32pm.. error.. atapi.. none.. 9
8-30-04.. 4:51:32pm.. warn.. disk.. none..51
8-30-04.. 4:52:10pm.. error.. atapi..none.. 9
8-30-04.. 4:52:10pm.. warn.. disk..none..51
8-30-04..11:04:28pm.. error.. disk.. none.. 11
8-31-04.. no errors

The CD burning is inconsistant... some data backups yield corrupt files, empty folders. A hang at sector 648 during simulation step preventing recording.
The HDD recognition problem is back...

A couple of hot reboots at the BIOS screen delay failing to recognize the slave HDD which ultimately ends in an insert OS disk msg. A couple power OFF, too. Lots of reboots after fidling with cables...50% success rate.

Putting a measurement on it 85%-90% of all operations presently are fine.
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Posted 01 September 2004 - 09:00 PM

9-1-04
Continuing, none the less.

MyComputer...only Local Disk (C:\) shown, although second HDD is plugged in

System Restore...no checkpoint set yet today

Event Viewer...Application... 350 events...no warn or errors today, info only. Up to now I've omitted them. 13 events added, in two catagories:

Security Center code 1800 (3 times)
ESENT (these come in groups of 2, twice in a row and have all along since reloading/SP2)
ESENT code 100
ESENT code 102...same millisecond it seems, followed by:
ESENT code 103
ESENT code 101 (this pattern done also 3X, but the final 103 & 101 didn't appear until several minutes after the first 100 & 102 the last set)

Event Viewer...System...1,504 events...no warns or errors (yet) today, info only. Also a distinct pattern has emerged involving a half dozen sources.

9:20:14am..info..7 of them..Service Control Manager codes(in order of appearance)7036,7035,7036,7035,7036,7036,7035
9:20:15..info..4 of them..codes 7036,7035,7036,7036
9:20:16..info..2 more..codes7035,7036
9:20:25..info..code 7036
9:20:04..info..5 of them..Application Popup..code 26
9:29:02..info..Remote Access..code 20158
9:28:30..info..W32Time..code 35
9:45:03..info..Remote Access..code 20159
9:45:04..info..event log..code 6006

11:21:14am..info..event log..2 of 'em..6009 & 6005
11:21:21..info..Service Control Manager..6 of 'em.. 7036,7035,7036,7035,7036,7035
11:21:22..info..Service Control Manager..6 more..7035,7036,7036,7036,7035,7036
11:21:23..7036
11:21:25..7035,7036
11:21:32..7036
11:21:11..info..6 of 'em..Application Popup..code 26
11:22:50..info..Remote Access..code 20158

1:41:25pm..info..Remote Access..code 20159
1:41:26..info..event log..code 6006

5:13:39pm..info..event log..6009, 6005
5:13:46..info..Service Control Manager.. 7036,7035,7036,7035,7036,7035,7036
5:13:47..info..Service Control Center..7036,7035,7035,7036,7036,7036
5:13:51..info..7035,7036
5:13:58..info..7036
5:13:36..info..6 of 'em..Application Popup..code 26

Task Manager
1 application..Discussion Board BC/Mozilla Firefox
19 processes
CPU usage..cycles 0%-25%-0% with 0% 3X the duration as the 25%
Commit Charge 106M/1125M
Network..0% utilization nocharge.com
User..me, the non-password controlled administrator.


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Edited by phawgg, 01 September 2004 - 09:05 PM.

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 06:25 PM

9-6-04
Its been a little while. I've continued to use the PC. Time to update the progress.

My Computer ...both HDD's showing. Probably explained by the fact that although I had the cable connected to the second drive, I had neglected to plug the power wires into it from the dormant third drive.

System Restore
9-3-04..11:58:34am..Checkpoint set
9-5-04... 4:07:37pm..installed STOPzilla!
............ 6:45:35pm..removed STOPzilla!

Event viewer Application 433 events to date

1 error, no warns, info's essentially the same as previously documented
9-05-04.. 10:44:00pm..error.. ntbackup..code 8019

Event Viewer System 1,923 events to date

1 warn, no errors, info's essentially the same as previously documentd
9-02-04..10:11:46am..warn.. cdrom..code 51

Task Manager
1 application..Discussion Board BC/Mozilla Firefox
21 processes
CPU usage..cycles 0%-27%-0%... with 0% 3X the duration as the 27%
Commit Charge 142M/1125M
Network..0% utilization nocharge.com
User..me, the non-password controlled administrator.

I've been quite busy, mostly online the last few days. Taking my trainee status seriously. Reading posts, following links, trying to apply logic to learning. Found and joined several forums in the process. The STOPzilla load/unload was the result of a post at SWI. At TechSupportGuy I learned that the post here at BC by Brunt re: slipstreaming and slimming SP2 was in fact authored by Bold Fortune, a senior member there. I will have him to thank for his hard work that I intend to make use of soon.

slimming down XP and slipstreaming SP2

Meanwhile, I installed Ad-Aware Personal SE build 1.04... my copy of the .exe on backup CD is older. Thank you, member Cryo.

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Nice GUI, I'd say, that Lavasoft has. Lottsa files since the reload of winxp. It is responsible for 4.7 GB. I've put just 1.3 GB on. I face that as I continue to work with what I've got.

BTW, thanks to JEServices (Jason) for straightening me out on the screenshots, with a capable assist by Koan Yorel right there in the middle of Ayeka's scribble post. Pandy's post today convinced me to have Bill mail me a CD of SP2, as I am using the network IT version of it and I may find, per Grinler's advice, that I'll need it. :thumbsup:

Edited by phawgg, 06 September 2004 - 06:33 PM.

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