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#1 Hertsky

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 01:19 AM

Hey I am running a gaming computer here and I need some advice on if I should upgrade a component in it to increase the performance.
I run a tight budget so I upgrade parts from time to time, not the best way to upgrade but it works for me.

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Power Supply: 650 Watt Pack
Processor: Intel 3.0Ghz Hyperthreading (Hyperthreading acts as if there are 2 processors)
Motherboard: Asus P5KPL-VM
Hard Disk: Western Digital 75GB SATA (I believe it is Generation 1)
Graphics: BFG Tech, Nvidia GeForce 8800GTS OC 512MB - LINK http://www.bfgtech.com/bfgr88512gtse.aspx
RAM: 3GB DDR2 677Mhz
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Standard 3 Button Mouse
Monitor: Acer LCD 20" Widescreen 5ms

I am thinking about upgrading my processor to a Dual Core 2.80-3.00Ghz, and I am wondering if that would be a good buy.
As I said, I work off of a tight budget, my hard drive is packed, its old I think it is Generation 1 type.
I have a external Hard drive outside 500gb and I've filled that one halfway already.
I play a bunch of games, I don't worry to much about graphics, if It runs on my 8800, it works for me, but they get a little jerky and laggy at some times. (Almost feels like loading lag)

Any tips and/or advice that I can do to perhaps increase my computers performance (Or to make it look good) would be great!

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 01:57 AM

intel 3 ghz what? hyperthreading is technology that many processors use, from the pentium 4 to the AMD phenoms. that mobo does support Core 2 chips, if your CPU is a pentium 4 an upgrade would be a good idea, and a memory upgrade would be a good idea as well. to at least ddr2 800, and i would totally get remove the 667 memory and replace it with at least 4 or more gigs of ddr2 800 and a 64 bit OS to recognize it. a new SATA II hard drive might not be a bad idea if you think you need more hard disk room as well.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:09 AM

Ah yeah, My processor is an Intel 3.00Ghz LGA 775 socket, Hyperthreading technology. I don't remember what other info it is.

BUT you say I should get a 64 But Operating system, do you mean Vista? And also, I play World of Warcraft (Imagine that lol) and I have all the graphics setting turned to its lowest, besides seeing distance, because what it is, is the game is very laggy on my computer, it is very jerky, I wonder if either getting a new Dual core processor, or 64bit OS or Hard disk would help that. (Any tips on what I can upgrade?)

Thanks


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 06:21 AM

The Pentium 4 processor is bottlenecking your graphics and making games lag. I think World of Warcraft is more processor dependent than graphics dependent.

I wouldn't change operating systems if you're on a budget.

You probably wouldn't notice a performance increase with a new hard drive.

Go for the processor upgrade, such as a Core 2 Duo. Do you have a price range? Maybe we could find a good one for you.
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:10 AM

Agreed. An E7500 or E7400 would be a good boost for under $140.

EDIT: Not sure whether a BIOS upgrade is needed for 45nm CPU support on that board.

Edited by dpunisher, 11 April 2009 - 11:13 AM.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 02:53 PM

Asus Product Specifications site
The E7500 is not supported, but the E7400 is along with the E8600, E8500, E8400, E8300, and E8200. You will need to update the BIOS though.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 03:36 PM

As I said, I work off of a tight budget, my hard drive is packed, its old I think it is Generation 1 type.

How "packed", is your harddrive?
How much free space do you have available?
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 05:23 PM

I would think that on a budget, a better CPU and hard drive would be good, what kinda budget do you have?

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 08:20 PM

Thanks all for the tips :D
My budget is roughly $200 right now. $250 max.
I think a processor upgrade will be a best bet too, many other people I play with in Call of duty and WoW tell me I should be upgrading my processor because its slowin my computer down.
I could get a new processor indeed!

My hard drive space is roughly 5-8 GB free space out of the total 75GB.

So yeah I may go out and grab a Core 2 Duo :D
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Posted 11 April 2009 - 09:55 PM

You can easily upgrade the CPU, just remember to download a new BIOS and read the BIOS flashing procedure carefully before you pull out the old CPU. As a general rule you should have between 10% and 15% free for best performance.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 10:53 PM

Okay thanks, maybe I can just move some of my unused files to my External drive.


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 10:58 PM

you can pick up this c2d for about 120 bucks and it will give you a huge performance jump http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115206

and this hard drive will do you well to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822152134

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:57 PM

Thanks Patriot! I was searchin around and I found this one
Core 2 Duo I found

It has a 6mb cache with a 1333Mhz FSB.
Little more expensive but I can dig it! And for that hard drive you linked me, ty, I will look into investing a new hard disk like that one :D

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Then I found this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115036

Faster, and I heard it can be overclocked to over 4.0Ghz while cooled on air. But its a bit more expensive.

Should I worry about 64 bit support, or Virtualization Technology Support if I am a gamer? :thumbsup:


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:58 PM

:D just make sure you follow my number one rule with computers, just make sure that whatever you order your gonna be happy with. :D

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 12:29 AM

64-bit will help you in the future, but unless you use a 64-bit operating system (Vista 64-bit, XP 64-bit, Windows 7 64-bit) it really doesn't matter. Several current (Crysis, The Witcher, GTA IV) and upcoming games support 64-bit, but you only get the benefits if you use a 64-bit operating system. If you want to use the faster 64-bit instruction sets and 4GB or more of memory, you will need a 64-bit operating system. As for virtualization, you shouldn't worry about that. If you're wanting to overclock, it is suggested you get an aftermarket heatsink since they typically do a better job at cooling the CPU than stock coolers.

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