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#1 toothmkr57


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Posted 01 April 2009 - 05:55 AM

Hello, I am considering upgrading my processor to an amd phenom 9850, but when i go to newegg there are 4 or 5 options, ie. the black edition, agena, etc. How do I know which is the better one to get. I mean teh price ranges from 83$ an open box item to 157$, do I go by price? theire specs all seem the same, does that mean they will all perform the same?

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 06:39 AM

I'm not too familure with AMD CPU's but as far as I know,

"Black Edition" means it has a "unlocked" multiplier which is aimed at the overclockers.
A "OEM" CPU doesn't come with a heatsink/fan .
A "open box" item is one that somebody else bought & returned for some reason.

Newegg shows 4 phenom 9850's ,

A black edition in the box with the hearsink/fan
A "OEM" black edition without the heatsink/fan
A standard OEM without the heatsink/fan
A "Open Box" item.

Of the ones listed ,


looks like the best deal to me.
"Black Edition" , comes with a heatsink/fan & free shipping !
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 01:49 PM

the things to look for are A: clock speed, B: cache size, C: cache levels, D: architecture. is it phenom I, II. Like fairjoe said, the OEM doesnt come with the heatsink while the retail edition of the same CPU would, the black editions have unlocked multipliers for overclocking, the open box ones are simply CPUs that have been purchased and returned by another buyer for whatever reason, and then tested by newegg and put back on the shelf at a lower price, and usually a shorter warranty. You also need to make sure your motherboard will support it. the 9850 uses AM2+ socket type. It should (in theory) work on a regular AM2 socket, but it will not run at the 5600 mhz FSB that it was designed to but will only run at the 2000 MHZ FSB, that is if it works at all. some AM2 Motherboards will support AM2+ with a bios update, so make sure you check out those options if your board does not support AM2+ natively. as far as that particular CPU, it runs at 2.5 ghz with a 4 x 512k level 2 cache, and a 2 mb level 3 cache that is shared by all 4 cores. its a decent little quad, but not likely to give you the performance of a higher end Phenom or most intel quads.



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