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#1 Wolfnet

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 12:12 AM

:thumbsup: To the Sapphire ATI Radeon 3450 256mb PCI-E x2. For just $35.00 you can go from an onboard graphics rating of 3.0's or less to 4.1 or higher. Remove the strain from teh board and run an cheap graphics card that can render nicely and free up system memory. No fan makes it silent. 300W power supply is recommended, but without a cooling fan a smaller p/s with a low load may push it.

For those of you who are looking for a graphics card to replace an onboard chip, this is the one. Cost-effective, clean and quiet. A customer favorite! Took a compaq sr5610 (amd 2.5 x2 3gb) from a 3.3 aero and 3.0 game to 4.0 aero and 4.1 game VE. Not bad for $35.

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 01:08 AM

I didnt realize this site was a place to do advertising. but personally, for general computers, I prefer the saphire 3650. Much better card. pay a lil more but will last longer and perform a lil better especially when it comes to HD. Saphire does make good cards though.

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 09:38 AM

While I agree the 3650 is a much better card, as a cheap alternative to onboard video (and even in this economy you can make a solid margin installing one too) the 3450 was a solid choice. As for advertising... well first I'd have to get paid. Anyone? Worth a shot.

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 08:16 PM

lol. I suppose the 3450 would be a good one, but for me, if I were to install a dedicated card, I would never install one lower end then the 3650 mainly because I like the computers I sell to be able to last a bit into the future. If they really dont want a performance machine, just something to surf the net with/word processor and they want to save some money I just leave them with the onboard video and make sure the motherboard has upgrade options. I mean seriouse, a lot of motherboards come with the ati 3200 which really isnt far below the 3450. :D

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 05:15 PM

This is true, however onboard video steals ram from the processor and heat buildup from using onboard (especially here in Maine where indoor air quality in the winter is well below mediocre) can ruin even a good mobo. For the $35 invested IMHO it's worth it simply to keep the heat up off the mobo.

Of course there are a world of people out there with varying needs, this only addresses the needs I have been seeing crop up this winter, failure due to heat. Well that and about a thousand versions of Vundo trojan have kept me busy all winter.

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 12:13 AM

This is true, however onboard video steals ram from the processor and heat buildup from using onboard (especially here in Maine where indoor air quality in the winter is well below mediocre) can ruin even a good mobo. For the $35 invested IMHO it's worth it simply to keep the heat up off the mobo.

Of course there are a world of people out there with varying needs, this only addresses the needs I have been seeing crop up this winter, failure due to heat. Well that and about a thousand versions of Vundo trojan have kept me busy all winter.


I know, but these customers who seriously, only do web surfing and such minute tasks where a pentium III will do fine, where a lil 2 ghz dual core with 2 gigs of ram and integrated graphics is fast enough to make their head spin. lol. All performance systems I do have dedicated graphics cards. :D

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 05:30 PM

With any performance system it's a given that you would want a graphics card. It's like having a corvette without an engine, it sure looks nice but goes nowhere. The debate between which card is best will rage on for ever, but I personally hate using onboard graphics for anything. Save that for the E-machines of the world.

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 10:45 PM

lol. lets all diss emachines now. . .no just kidding. I typically agree with you. so far the only build ive done with onboard is a barebones system for my 12 year old brother. I mean seriously, the most graphics intensive game he plays is age of empires to. lol its only got 1 gig of ram paired with a amd athlon x2 3800+ and an 80 gig hard drive, and thats about twice as much power as he ever uses. my parents just wanted somethin he can do his schoolwork on and some basic stuff and didnt want to fork out a lot of money. now the system I built for my dad, hehe thats got a good deal more uuumpf to it, including a dedicated graphics card. :D

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:08 AM

lol. lets all diss emachines now. . .no just kidding. I typically agree with you. so far the only build ive done with onboard is a barebones system for my 12 year old brother. I mean seriously, the most graphics intensive game he plays is age of empires to. lol its only got 1 gig of ram paired with a amd athlon x2 3800+ and an 80 gig hard drive, and thats about twice as much power as he ever uses. my parents just wanted somethin he can do his schoolwork on and some basic stuff and didnt want to fork out a lot of money. now the system I built for my dad, hehe thats got a good deal more uuumpf to it, including a dedicated graphics card. :D

Say Patriot, I started building custom computers myself, when my last Emachine bit the Dust!! Ha!! I build Antec cases 300 1200 and use Thermaltake 430W power supplies, More watts if it's a gaming rig. My personal rig has the 3200 series onboard. It's an Elitegroup A780GM-A black series, 4200+ AMD duo-core. Nobody has ordered Intel from me yet?? Alan
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 12:01 PM

hehe intels overrated if you ask me. nice chips, but you pay waaay to much for them, especially when AMD chips generally do everything anyone really needs them to for less then half the price. I mean seriously, with some tweaking, (not overclocking) ive managed to get my athlon x2 6000+ windsor to match up with a q6600 in some performance tests (not all, there are just some things a dual core cant do that a quad can) in fact, I havent even sold a quad core system yet. theres really no need for them, unless your an entusiast. I mean face it, at least 75% of the population, or more, can do everything they need to on an old pentium III. Now im not stating that were all just wasting money or that those that want quads especially intels, are wasting their money, were what you call enthusiasts. I mean, its cool having 5 times more power then we need, hehe. if I had 400 bucks Id be runnin a quad myself, even though my dual core does everything I need and then some. :D

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:03 PM

hehe intels overrated if you ask me. nice chips, but you pay waaay to much for them, especially when AMD chips generally do everything anyone really needs them to for less then half the price.


I couldn't agree more. For the difference in price you can really soup up a similarly spec'd AMD from it's Intel counterpart. And personally, I've had a far easier time tweaking AMD processors than Intel's. In fact, a friend had his Q6600 over last night w/ 64 bit ultimate on it and honestly my 4800 X2 had no trouble keeping pace with it (both running 3gb DDR2 800mhz). In fact there were a couple of times that the Q seemed almost to "stall" where the X2 just plugged on. Personally I have no need to go over two cores at this point in my life because I rarely use up 100% of either one.

I always recommend AMD chips for their upgradability path as well (AM2/AM2+ sockets can go from 1-4 cores without swapping the mainboard making them very upgrade-friendly) The $ savings is just gravy, either they save money or you make more (or both =`D)

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:04 AM

Yep, I just built an AMD 5600+ in an Antec 300 case. I added a front 120mm Skythe fan, still very quiet for an HTPC a customer ordered, he's very pleased. I will build another soon. Yes, the AM2/AM2+ mainboards ROCK! I have windows vista ultimate. I run the 32 bit for now, but will upgrade to 64 bit maybe next year. Windows 7 came out soon after I plucked down $320.00, I'm still mad about that! Alan
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Posted 12 April 2009 - 06:37 PM

I use 32 bit Home Premium and have found it to work better than 64 bit Ultimate.

64 bit will be the way to go but they have to write it better IMHO.

Early Adopters get the shaft.

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:02 AM

Yep, I just built an AMD 5600+ in an Antec 300 case. I added a front 120mm Skythe fan, still very quiet for an HTPC a customer ordered, he's very pleased. I will build another soon. Yes, the AM2/AM2+ mainboards ROCK! I have windows vista ultimate. I run the 32 bit for now, but will upgrade to 64 bit maybe next year. Windows 7 came out soon after I plucked down $320.00, I'm still mad about that! Alan


ummm better look closer, 7 not out yet, just the beta, and its closed. :D

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:27 AM

Yep, I just built an AMD 5600+ in an Antec 300 case. I added a front 120mm Skythe fan, still very quiet for an HTPC a customer ordered, he's very pleased. I will build another soon. Yes, the AM2/AM2+ mainboards ROCK! I have windows vista ultimate. I run the 32 bit for now, but will upgrade to 64 bit maybe next year. Windows 7 came out soon after I plucked down $320.00, I'm still mad about that! Alan


ummm better look closer, 7 not out yet, just the beta, and its closed. :D

I see that 7 beta is closed, Thanks Patriot, AMD prices continue to drop, Quad core prices on newegg are at $99.00 WOW! I may upgrade my custom builds for my store front computers to Quads soon! What do you think? Alan
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