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I hear that Windows warning thud


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#1 aland08

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 08:23 PM

Hi,

I occasionally hear the Windows warning thud or whatever that noise is called, yet no warning or error windows pop up, nor do I notice any strange processes running. I realize this may not be a good explanation, but I hope someone understands what I am talking about. I am not a software engineer but I am also not as computer illiterate as this post makes me sound :thumbsup:

Look forward to your response. Thanks.

Alan

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:10 PM

A suggestion. Next time you hear it ,notice the time. Now open Eveny Viewer and see if something occurred at that time.
Start>>Control Panel>>Administrative Tools>>Event Viewer

How To Use the Event Viewer Applet

Edited by boopme, 18 March 2009 - 09:13 PM.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:29 PM

Sure...I have been having problems w/ my CA Security as well. The CA problems I believe occurred only after I upgraded to the '09 version a few days ago. One of the problems I am having is a Windows application error message telling me that CA Antispyware needs to close. A CA rep had me open event viewer to check an error code, but he did not know what to make of the errors. I do not know if the issues are related. I removed and reinstalled my CA AS only to have the same problem so just tonight, I removed my entire CA Security suite & reinstalled it. Anti Spyware has not needed to close yet, however, just when I thought I was in the clear, the AV froze after a scan & both the AV & AS started scanning at an unscheduled time. I just rebooted and am scanning again. During these past couple of hours though, I have heard "the thud" :thumbsup:, so I will check the Event Wiz & get back to you.

Thanks, Alan

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:33 PM

boopme,

I checked the EW & I believe the 2 most recent, almost simultaneous application error messages occurred around the time when I heard "the noise". They are application hangs. What do you need to know about them?

Alan

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:37 PM

ps- fyi- the only other changes I have recently made were... removed some old Netgear wireless leftover files/folders/shortcuts as I no longer use a wireless setup. I also ran startuplite by MBAM & stopped a few startups. I manually stopped the MA111 Netgear startup. I even removed MBAM to be sure of a clean reinstall of the CA software.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:27 PM

Sorry boopme....should have read the link info you sent me first :thumbsup:

Here you go...some error reports...there are no IE or Security errors. If I continue to go back, there are additional App errors, most if not all of the same type. And, as you can see there are some system errors but not many. I only included some of the errors from tonight and again, most of the errors are in the Application log. I hope this helps....I look forward to your or someones reply. Thanks.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 3/18/2009
Time: 9:40:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ALAN
Description:
Fault bucket 1163243996.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 42 75 63 6b 65 74 3a 20 Bucket:
0008: 31 31 36 33 32 34 33 39 11632439
0010: 39 36 0d 0a 96..
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 3/18/2009
Time: 9:40:39 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ALAN
Description:
Hanging application casc.exe, version 5.0.0.581, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address
0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 63 61 73 63 2e 65 casc.e
0018: 78 65 20 35 2e 30 2e 30 xe 5.0.0
0020: 2e 35 38 31 20 69 6e 20 .581 in
0028: 68 75 6e 67 61 70 70 20 hungapp
0030: 30 2e 30 2e 30 2e 30 20 0.0.0.0
0038: 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 65 at offse
0040: 74 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 t 000000
0048: 30 30 00
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Dhcp
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1002
Date: 3/18/2009
Time: 8:46:35 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ALAN
Description:
The IP address lease 192.168.1.100 for the Network Card with network address 001676034DAE has been denied by the DHCP server 192.168.1.1 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 3/18/2009
Time: 8:43:00 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ALAN
Description:
Faulting application caantispyware.exe, version 11.0.0.241, faulting module caantispyware.exe, version 11.0.0.241, fault address 0x000108c9.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 63 61 61 ure caa
0018: 6e 74 69 73 70 79 77 61 ntispywa
0020: 72 65 2e 65 78 65 20 31 re.exe 1
0028: 31 2e 30 2e 30 2e 32 34 1.0.0.24
0030: 31 20 69 6e 20 63 61 61 1 in caa
0038: 6e 74 69 73 70 79 77 61 ntispywa
0040: 72 65 2e 65 78 65 20 31 re.exe 1
0048: 31 2e 30 2e 30 2e 32 34 1.0.0.24
0050: 31 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 1 at off
0058: 73 65 74 20 30 30 30 31 set 0001
0060: 30 38 63 39 0d 0a 08c9..
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 12:51 PM

The error data that you posted...indicate that your CA Security Suite has problems...and your network connection has problems.

I suggest removing the CA program temporarily (you can install something else), since it seems to hang.

The DHCP error could be a hardware situation...I suggest trying alternate hardware, if available.

Worth reading, IMO: http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread21115.html

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Your CA application may be hanging because of your network problems.

Edited by hamluis, 19 March 2009 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:13 PM

Louis,

I will be reading the linked info you sent soon. I have had enough of CA's issues and lack of support. Do you recommend another program other than McAfee or Norton? I have CA installed on another machine as well & it scans repeatedly at unscheduled times & there are login & password issues with their site. I have had terrible experiences with them as of late.

What do you mean by alternate hardware? FYI...I haven't had any issues with this computer for a while.

Alan

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:19 PM

Louis,

I unplugged my machine a couple of times yesterday during periods of not being protected as I uninstalled & reinstalled CA. Could this be what you noticed? I checked my event viewer on my other machine and it had a DHCP error at exactly the same time & these are separate systems.

Alan

Edited by aland08, 19 March 2009 - 01:28 PM.


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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:37 PM

Are you saying that you currently have no problems?

That's fine with me.

FWIW: The characteristic thud (I think of it as an abrupt organ sound) sound is heard on my systems whenever I am attempting to do an operation (e.g., move files from one partition to another) and it either completes or fails to complete. I'm not sure which (or both), I don't pay attention to it when I have the speakers on...I normally have the speakers off on this PC.

You might be interested in this, http://www.worldstart.com/tips/sound-tips/changesounds.htm

Louis

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:48 PM

Louis,

I am not at all saying that I have no problems...on the contrary, hence this post about the thud or as you better described as "an abrupt organ sound".

Again, I unplugged my machine a couple of times yesterday during periods of not being protected as I uninstalled & reinstalled CA. Could this be what you noticed? I checked my event viewer on my other machine and it had a DHCP error at exactly the same time & these are separate systems. If the answer is yes then I assume I am not actually having DHCP errors therefore eliminating one of the potential issues.

And, could the organ thud :thumbsup: be related to the CA hangs & freezes?

And....Do you recommend another program other than McAfee or Norton?

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:02 PM

Yes :thumbsup:.

Yes :flowers:.

Yes. I use Avira Free on my two systems and I like it...I've also read good comments from knowledgeable persons about it.

On this system, I am currently running just the Windows Firewall...on my other system I use Sunbelt Kerio Free Firewall.

On the other system, I run SUPERAntispyware, Spybot, and Windows Defender...on this system, I settle for Spybot and SUPERAntiSpyware.

I've never been infected with anything...although I was hit by Blaster Worm (I failed to use the Windows Firewall) within a few seconds of completing a clean install on a system. fortunately, NAV took care of that and directed me to the Symantec tool for removing Blaster.

There is no reason to pay for AV/firewall products when the free ones work just as effectively as the paid versions.

Louis

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:18 PM

Louis,

Thank you & really? lol

The really is in regards to the free versions being as good as the paid. I have very much liked CA up until now. IT MUST GO :thumbsup: Well, we'll see if my thudding goes away after removing it & installing something else. Just so you know, I don't think I mentioned this to you...after removing & reinstalling CA & MBAM yesterday, MBAM picked up this ...C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSINET.oca (Rogue.Trace). See post... http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...p;#entry1184049 I don't know if this changes your opinions on anything or not. Let me know.

Thanks!

Alan

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 11:02 PM

There goes that double thud again....the Windows warning thud??? Nothing in the event viewer either??????

Any thoughts anyone

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 11:06 PM

Have you looked in the control panel>sounds and audio devices and clicked on the sounds tab to see what event you have configured to play that sound?




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