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#1 Guitarist

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:11 AM

My computer has been running fairly slow for months and even when i go to burn a CD/DVD sometimes it will take 45 minutes (not always) also when i play games i notice i cant handle what it used to and on top of that if i try and watch a high def movie the audio goes off pretty quickly.

i've tried cleaning out my computer which it does help a little bit, checked the thermal paste, replaced an IDE cable (Yes, im using IDE still lol), did online scans, did scans from MiniPE, tried HiJackThis, many other programs....found no viruses, and i have set the primary device to DMA if available but its still in PIO mode

Any Help Is Very Much Appreciated
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:42 AM

Good call on your part to check/replace IDE cable. It is a common cause. Is it an "80 conductor" cable? Old style 40 conductor cables can cause a device to revert to PIO mode. Both have 40 pins on the connector.

Update motherboard chipset drivers.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:53 AM

Well, I had a newer one on there but i replaced it with another cable prob the slower one as it was a part from an older comp that is for parts :thumbsup: but i actually found a brand new cable in a box im gonna try out later tonight...not sure if thats the only problem tho as its my dvd burner running in PIO not my hard drive hence the VERY slow burning speeds it does at times....

but i have tried to scan my hard drive for errors and it said it was going to take 36 hours to scan it once (250GB HD) so im goign to try and swap that cable and scan again... (i have never had problems with the hard drives...corrupted files, etc.) if it doesnt work, is there a way to test my motherboard for errors? :S

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:54 AM

oh and ill update the chipset drivers and ill post on here if it fixed anything

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 08:54 AM

You can try DMA reverts to PIO Windows Problem Solver - http://winhlp.com/node/10

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472

http://sniptools.com/vault/getting-back-to...e-in-windows-xp

Beginners Guides The Registry Backups, Repairs, and Protection - PCSTATS.com - http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?art...=263&page=4

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:58 AM

So you have 2 LG dvd burners sharing a cable? Are they jumpered master/slave and correctly positioned on the cable?

The master will be on top and at end of the cable

Slave below and in the middle

Longer span of cable end connects to the motherboard

If you have been using the pio drive to read a lot of old dvd's, then crc errors will kick it into pio mode, sp2 helped with this problem

Also I prefer the bootable hard drive to be on the primary, not the secondary

Edited by DaChew, 04 March 2009 - 10:00 AM.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 10:12 AM

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=64974

Here's a nice guide to the nero info tool, I just updated the download link, if you don't already have nero the tool is free

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 10:15 AM

The configuration tab is the most useful for problems like this

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:28 PM

pputting the HD's on the primary makes sense actually :thumbsup: ill do that and im not sure if i have the master burner on the end of the cable didnt know it mattered...but definitely makes sense...learn something new everyday thanks ill be doing this in about an hour if that doesnt work ill use that tool, thanks for the help so far

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:39 PM

I would suggest testing the newest dvd burner alone on the cable, jumpered master.
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:35 PM

K so i tried the following:

- swapping out an IDE cable for a brand new one out of the package
- made sure the Master drive was at the end of the cable (which it was)
- did the same with the Hard Drives (they run in DMA and always have just been running slow)
- got rid of 95% of the dust (wasnt much as i clean it regularly)
- doing an online scan with kaspersky now
- HijackThis found only two files that were unneccessary and i removed them
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shouldnt have any viruses and it runs almost the same right after a reformat with the same problems but scans are easy so ill post another response after the scan and im going to use that tool but it will prob require a restart so im doing the scan first

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:44 PM

DMA = off :thumbsup:

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:44 PM

To re-enable the typical, or faster, transfer mode for an affected device:
Double-click Administrative Tools, and then click Computer Management.
Click System Tools, and then click Device Manager.
Expand the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers node.
Double-click the controller for which you want to restore the typical DMA transfer mode.
Click the Driver tab.
Click Uninstall.
When the process completes, restart your computer. When Windows restarts, the hard disk controller is re-enumerated and the transfer mode is reset to the default value for each device that is connected to the controller.


from Hamilus's link, it's buried deep tho

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=61905

same procedure with picture

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?s=&...dpost&p=967

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:47 PM

System ASPI = Not Installed
Nero ASPI = Installed and working properly

could that be anything to do with it?

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:50 PM

Aspi is a hold over from windows 98 days, nero uses it's own

Windows xp use SPTI instead, a much better interface
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