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Upgrading Motherboard and Processor HELP


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#1 Nites2k

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:03 AM

If I wanted to just upgrade my motherboard and processer what would be the best pick if i wanted to have a motherboard and processer that would support my other hardware:
VisionTek 900202 Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire
Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR2

I was thinking of this one http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=1599
though i dont think i can have crossfire with this though and would love it was a little cheaper!

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:12 AM

motherboards ID recomend this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128381 for an AMD based system or this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128358 for an intel based build. as far as CPU Id recomend whatever brand you go with get the best one you can afford. these are both crossfire enabled boards that support DDR2.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:49 AM

Updating your motherboard will certainly extend the life of the PC. Note that if you install a new motherboard, you should reinstall Windows. Also, if you are using an OEM edition of Windows, you will be in violation of the licensing if you swap out a motherboard that isn't an exact match to your old one. This is because Microsoft defines a PC as its motherboard. Also, if you're looking to save some money, go with AMD.
Suggestions: (I used the Canadian version of Newegg since, well, you're Tigerdirect link goes to Canada. If you're a U.S. purchaser, these parts are available at Newegg.com for less than I quoted below.)

AMD
Motherboard: ASRock AOD790GX/128M AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX ATX AMD - The motherboard suggested above may be good, we just don't know since there aren't a large number of reviews. This board requires DDR2-1066 memory. $129
CPU: General User: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz - Not all people need a quad-core setup, general users can work with dual-core setups. $89
Gamer: AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz - Gamers, or users keeping their PC's for several years, should go with the quad core. There is a faster edition of this CPU, the Phenom II X4 940, that is $50 more. $225

Intel
Motherboard: ASRock P45R2000-WiFi LGA 775 Intel P45 - This board comes with Crossfire and also uses DDR2-1066 memory. It's at a good price, too. Just don't use the Kingston HyperX memory with the board since there are issues running with it. $147
CPU: General User: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz - $202
Gamer: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.5GHz - $233

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#4 Nites2k

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 01:54 PM

the motherboard looks perfect but I am a gamer and I am for AMD, would this core be a better alternative http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103244
I'am trying to avoid paying too much

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 05:36 PM

I'm going to assume that you're not Canadian and the prices are for U.S. residents now. I was a little thrown by the Canadian Tigerdirect link. I suggest getting a quad core with a clock speed of 2.5GHz. or higher, which the one you selected doesn't have. The U.S. price for the AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz is $189. The Phenom II's are direct competitors to Intel's Core 2 line and can usually match them in performance. The original Phenom's, however, come up short. If you want to spend about $40 less, you can get a AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz, but they aren't as efficient as their Core 2 counterparts of similar speed.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 03:21 AM

Would there be any large difference between those two processors or is that the II just can match Intels Core 2?

Also i was going to get this internal HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822152102
but it says in the reviews it does not come with plugs would these be the compatible ones for the motherboard?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16812816027
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16812816029

Edited by Nites2k, 12 February 2009 - 04:07 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2009 - 04:17 AM

yeah right plugs, though I would recomend a PSU with native sata power support it makes life easier. the orginal phenom had stepping problems, Id go with the phenom II if you want an AMD quad core, would be a much better choice. and samsung makes good HDs as well. and no they dont come with cables, i havent seen one yet that does, I dont know why people complain about that, if its not listed in the packaging its not included so its dumb to complain about a hard drive not having cables. most motherboards will come with at least 1 sata cable, sometimes more but not all the time.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 04:16 PM

I wouldn't go for Samsung drives, I stick with Western Digital and Seagate. The Phenom II, when compared to the regular Phenom, is cooler, more efficient, and can match Core 2 CPU's in many applications. Many power supplies come with the necessary SATA power cables, but the SATA data cables will have to be purchased by you. Unless, of course, your motherboard includes them in the box. You only need that molex to SATA power cable if you run out of SATA power cables.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 11:00 PM

Well that means I should look around for my power supply box for more cords if I dnt get them with the motherboard, though I already ordered actually with the plugs but I can always return then if I found extra.. Couldnt really find any true cons on the Samsung so I went with it, Ive never used any other brand outside of western digital,seagate, and maxtar.

I was looking at my motherboard support list and it doesnt have the AMD I got, does that mean that it is not compatible?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NFT1R4
http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.asp?Model=AOD...8M&s=AM2%2b

Edited by Nites2k, 13 February 2009 - 02:33 AM.





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