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#1 spottap

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 11:59 AM

I am new to Bleeping Computers and I am hoping someone can help me. When i start up my kid's computer it comes up with an error 1720 Smart Hard Drive detects iminent failure. then at the bottom of the screen it says boot f1. When i click f1 it comes up with an warning. Windows had detected a registry/configuration error. Choose, Command prompt only and run scanreg. But when i do this it goes into windows checker, but it doesnt do anything after that. Does this mean that the hard drive is dead and i need to replace it.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 06:11 PM

Welcome to our Discussion forums, spottap :thumbsup:

When the message occurs, it usually means that your hard disk is about to fail as the message indicated. I have seen hard disks last days after this message, and in some cases up to 2 years. It is similar to the Check Engine light on your car.- you just never know how long you car is going to continue to run after you get this message.

Have you tried typing in the SCANREG /RESTORE at the command prompt?
If that works, try running a full scan with SCANDISK.

What is the exact make/model and any other technical details that you can give use about your kids computer?

Edited by Joshuacat, 24 May 2005 - 06:15 PM.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 09:09 PM

Thanks for your response. I emailed the ex to find out what i could about the computer. He hasnt responded yet. I tried the scanreg /restore. nothing happens other than it comes up with microsft registry checker but it doesnt do anything. I have tried to start it in safe mode but it wont go into safe mode. Is there anything else i can do.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 10:19 PM

From the DOS command prompt, try to run SCANDISK.
Let it do a full scan. Let me know the results are of the summary from scandisk.

Do you have a Windows 98 boot disk?
Do you have the installation CD?
Is there any data that you need to copy off the computer?


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Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:05 AM

I did the ScanDisk and here is the results:

ScanDisk encountered a data error while reading the Fat on Drive C. This error prevents ScanDisk from fixing this drive

ScanDisk Log

Directory Structure
ScanDisk did not perform any test

File Allocation Table
ScanDisk did not find any problems

File System
ScanDisk did not perform any test

Surface Scan
ScanDisk did not perform any test

I do not have the 98 boot disk, I also do not have the cd for it. And there is nothing on the computer that i need to save, since it is just for the kids anyways, i can reinstall games and stuff if i can get it to work

Thanks again for your help

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:29 AM

From the command prompt, type in fdisk /mbr
It won't look like is doing anything...
Reboot.
Try scandisk again.
Let me know.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:45 AM

Ok i did the fdisk /mbr and then rebooted and did another scandisk and the same thing came up, it encountered a data error and can not fix it. the log is the same as before also.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:52 AM

Hi spottap, been watching your thread here.

Try a scandisk from within Windows. Do a Ctrl+Alt+Del and close any running programs first and turn off the screensaver. Take the check mark away from automatically fix errors. This should generate an error in the scandisk log which can be found at C:\scandisk.log, so check that when your done.

You can also disable S.M.A.R.T. in the Bios if that error bothers you. :thumbsup: Thats not a very reliable utility.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:43 PM

I cant get into windows, as soon as i turn on the computer it comes up with a black screen with smart immeninent failure to hard drive detected at the bottom of the screen is f1 boot, when i click on f1 it starts window 98 then it stops and goes back to a black screen with windows 98 start up menu,and then a warning: windows had tected a registry configuration error. Choose Command prompt only, and run Scanreg. Nothing happens when i do the scanreg.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:58 PM

What is the exact make and model of your computer?

To summarize your failed attempts:
You tried the following commands and none of them ran succesfully:
FDISK /MBR
SCANREG
SCANREG /RESTORE
SCANDISK

Hey, we are running out of things to try...how about scanreg /fix
Give it a few minutes before you do anything further.

Since there is nothing on the drive, you may need to buy another hard disk.

I haven't given up hope yet...

Let me know.

Edited by Joshuacat, 25 May 2005 - 02:03 PM.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:20 PM

i did the scanreg /fix and it is now in a blue screen saying Repairing C:/Windows/system.dat

Looking for valid system registry keys
Checking system registry structure
rebuilding system registry

Is that what it is suppose to be doing, and how long will this take to do, cause i am not sure if the pc is doing anything or not, cause it is just on that page and nothing looks like is happening

The only thing i know about the computer is that it is a Compaq PIII 650 MHZ i dont know if that will help you or not, cause it doesnt tell me much. I dont know alot about computers.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:31 PM

Wait until it finishes. Not sure of the exact time it will take, but you need to give it some time.

Is there a model # listed somewhere on the computer?

Let us know...
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:44 PM

Would i find the model number on it, if i took the side off of the case and looked at it that way.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 03:27 PM

Should be on the outside of the case front/back or sides.
Mine says Desktop Pro EN on the front. Don't worry if you can't find it. Doesn't help much unless we can at least get the scanreg finished.

How's the scanreg doing?
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 05:59 PM

the only thing i see on the front is Compaq Desk Pro. I think the scanning is frozen, cause it is still saying the same as it did when i first started the scanning, that hasnt changed




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