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Lost ntdetect.com, ntldr after gmer, blackright runs

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#1 EntropyReduction


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Posted 07 December 2008 - 10:15 PM

I've got a puzzling situation. After reading


I downloaded Blacklight, then gmer, on an XP SP3 machine (Dell, bought a month ago or so, lots of stuff installed, no obvious symptoms of trouble, running comodo and avast at the time). No problems reported by either programme. But on reboot, NTDETECT.COM and ntldr had disappeared. Once I replaced them using recovery console, hal.dll was reported corrupt.

Ever heard to such a thing? I can imagine a hypothetical rootkit that wreaked revenge for daring to run rootkit detectors, but got no proof.

I'm hesitant about running gmer or Blacklight again, in case same story repeats. I now have McAfee installed, which reports no problems. However, I have reinstalled various programmes using the same installers I used the first time around
(stored on another computer which could, hypothetically be infected).

Thanks for any suggestions.

{Mod Edit: moving to XP rom AII forum,Non Malware issue~~boopme}

Edited by boopme, 07 December 2008 - 11:04 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:22 PM

Well...any number of situations can result in corrupted system (or other) files.

Power fluctuations, hard shutdowns, anything that interrupts or prevents a smooth shutdown, bugs in installed software, etc...the potential causes are varied.

Causes of Data Corruption - http://ezinearticles.com/?Causes-of-Data-C...n&id=817785

Data corruption and loss causes and avoidance - http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/datacorruption.html

File Corruption & Its Consequences - http://www.smartcomputing.com/Editorial/ar...3.asp&guid=


Edited by hamluis, 08 December 2008 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 03:37 AM

Hi EntropyReduction,

If your installation programs were from trusted sources, I doubt your new computer would be infected in that way. Since none of the scans you did turned up malware, hamluis's suggestion to look for other reasons for the corruption would be the best next step. Rerunning GMER and Blacklight is unlikely to give you a different result than what you already got. You may want to do some online scans for viruses, if you have reason to believe your computer could have been infected by contact with a second computer that was known to be infected. Those can be found in a link to preliminary instructions when you first click on the HijackThis and Malware Removal forum. Just note, that in most cases, it is more common for malware to add files than to corrupt existing ones.


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Posted 10 December 2008 - 12:53 AM

Thanks for feedback. I'll try an online scan.

As I know I can do it in less than a day, tempted to just wipe machine and rebuild it,
observing strict hygiene along the way.

Thanks again for your help.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 09:13 AM

The benefits of a wipe and reinstall are that new Windows smell (sorta like the new car smell).
The benefits of fixing the installation are retaining your settings and data - and the satisfaction of fixing the problem yourself.
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