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I can't get a job


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#1 Mr_Freeware

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 10:35 PM

You can say that it's the economy, but I could never get a job even when the economy was better. I'm talking mostly about retail here. I could NEVER get a job in a store like Lowe's, Target, BestBuy, etc. I have tried what seems like hundreds of times. I've applied in person (by filling out a paper) and online. I signed up with a website called Snagajob and I get emails telling me when a company is hiring. I go to snagajob and fill out their quick thing and then I never hear from anyone.

Let me tell you a little bit about me. I am 23. I've never been to jail. I've never been fired. I don't have tattoos or earings. I don't smoke or do drugs and I have never ever had even a sip of alcohol as of today. I know how to come to work on time everyday and not steal anything.

A while ago I saw an ad for a job at BestBuy. I and a friend applied online. The job was Music and Gaming specialist or something like that. It was a job that either one of us were cut out for. Especially my friend because he knows even more about that stuff than me. They never called back. Then about a week or two later, I see the ad for the same job posted again. This made me mad because 2 very capable people just applied for it and they never called either of us and they are still looking for someone to hire.

What more do they want???

Well I know that there is this thing called Unicru. A lot of companies use this thing. When you apply online, you also have to answer a bunch of multiple choice questions. It will ask you a question like "You love to be with people" and you have to choose between Strongly Agree, Agree, Disagree, and Strongly Disagree. The problem is this system may be black balling me as it is doing to so many other people out there. I don't know how their system works. You can get penalized for choosing "strongly". You can get penalized for NOT choosing "strongly". I don't know what they want. When I answer honestly, I never get called back. When I answer by putting what I think they want me to put, I still don't get called back. I have never gotten a job in retail.

I have taken the time to review an actual Unicru test and analyze the questions one by one. All 99 of them. I really want people to look at what I did and tell me what you think. My goal here is to expose what a complete joke this test is and why it must be stopped. It's a long read and I don't expect anyone to actually read the whole thing, but as long as you skim through it.

http://www.createforum.com/unicrumustdie/v...m=unicrumustdie

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 10:46 PM

They never called back. Then about a week or two later, I see the ad for the same job posted again. This made me mad because 2 very capable people just applied for it and they never called either of us and they are still looking for someone to hire.

What more do they want???


Mr_Freeware
Sorry to hear about your dilemma.
IMHO they are going to hire the one who really wants the position.
Meaning that filling out an online app was a start but a follow up might clench the job.
Go in there dressed properly and ask to speak to a manager. Tell that manager that you have applied and would like to be considered.

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 10:51 PM

I had that problem too with a few retail places (Big W, Woolworths etc) and in the end I decided they're just not worth the trouble. If you go to see a manager they refuse you and say to get on the site. My brother was picked for Big W over me and I had 4.5 years of working experience over him, 3.5 in retail. That might show how bogus some of these systems are. Anyway he got in, made it through 2 interviews then they stalled him for 2 months while they took their sweet time checking all of his details. He got fed up and got another job before they finished checking the details.

#4 Mr_Freeware

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 11:14 PM

I had that problem too with a few retail places (Big W, Woolworths etc) and in the end I decided they're just not worth the trouble. If you go to see a manager they refuse you and say to get on the site. My brother was picked for Big W over me and I had 4.5 years of working experience over him, 3.5 in retail. That might show how bogus some of these systems are. Anyway he got in, made it through 2 interviews then they stalled him for 2 months while they took their sweet time checking all of his details. He got fed up and got another job before they finished checking the details.



That's right. I had a friend go to Best Buy to ask them for 2 applications. They told him that you HAD TO apply ONLINE ONLY!

I typed in Unicru into google and I have read about people going to the managers and they told them that they couldn't give them the job because of their Unicru score. They said it rates you either Green, Yellow, or Red with Green meaning you are what they are looking for, and Red meaning they don't even want to see you and Yellow is in between.

I may try the call back thing more often but when I called Best Buy, the person sounded so puzzled as to why I called them. It went something like this:


Me- I applied for a job a while ago and now I see you are hiring again. Why didn't anyone call me?

Them- ...You have to apply online.

Me- Yeah, I did that.

Them- Then If they want you, they will call.

Me- Yeah, I know that, but I'm wondering why no one ever called back. I filled out everything. I don't see why they wouldn't want me. I know they couldn't have hired someone else because I saw another ad put up.

Them- ... Well if no one calls back, apply again.

Me- ...


The way the person talked to me was as if I was the first person to ever call them back. It appeared that I was EXPECTED to just sit back and wait.


It just takes so long to fill out these online applications just to never get called back. I hate wasting all that time just to get shot down. It feels more like entering a contest or a raffle than an application.

And I think giving someone a 2nd interview is a joke. It's not like your brother was applying to work at IBM. These are just retail stores. They're about as low as you can go. If someone isn't even qualified to work in a retail store, what the heck else is there for them? They might as well just crawl in a corner and shrivel up and die, lol.

Edited by Mr_Freeware, 01 December 2008 - 11:20 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2008 - 11:21 PM

Here in OZ,you have to be OVER Qualified to get even the most mundane Position.
Many Positions have in excess of 1000 applicants.
Just never give up trying and may I suggest improving your Education in the meantime,with an online University,or the like. :thumbsup:















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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:26 PM

Ok, so with unicru, I guess that's how people are running their businesses these days. There are either applications like unicru's on a company's website or it's a unicru one.

I talked to a manager at costco and she gave me a hint: complete the application as fast as possible. The unicru test gauges how fast you did the test. Results won't even matter if it was completed too slowly, since it's a retail environment and you have to be quick on your feet all the time. She also said that since past entries aren't recorded, so you can take the app for a couple of dry runs, making sure to cancel just before you complete the app, and then blast through the whole thing one last time. I don't know if you can restart the whole app though, I gotta test that out.

On some other research I did, it seems as though that the test is just to see if you know what the model employee is supposed to be. So obviously you want to pick the outgoing options, etc. depending on the business. When you pick choices, I've heard that picking Strongly too much will dock points, yet I've also heard that picking Moderately will dock points period. It seems like one would have to pick strongly on a lot of points and then pick moderately a few times, and that there is no perfect score.

Is the application a load of bull, yes. But case in point: I never do good on those things. I've answered fake, told the truth, all strongly answers, and all in between. But I did it once for my ex girlfriend for an Albertsons grocery store, and I just blew past it because I didn't really care at the time. The hiring manager called her the next day if I remember correctly, and she told her that she had the highest score she ever saw. Epic.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 03:30 PM

Have you tried Advance Auto Parts, AutoZone, and other national Auto parts chains? Retail is an over-saturated field especially with Wally's, Worst Buy,and Tarjey (the spelling doesn't come out right). Auto Parts retailers however are veiwed as worse jobs (unsure why, better pay and benefits than Wally's) and the job is fairly simple example customer tells you the year, make, and model vehicle and the broken part you look it up on a computer and then pull the corresponding Part # off of the shelf. Anyone can do it believe me and the jobs are not hard to get just show up and dont fail the drug test and they'll take you even if you're on life support.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:21 AM

Have you tried Advance Auto Parts, AutoZone, and other national Auto parts chains? Retail is an over-saturated field especially with Wally's, Worst Buy,and Tarjey (the spelling doesn't come out right). Auto Parts retailers however are veiwed as worse jobs (unsure why, better pay and benefits than Wally's) and the job is fairly simple example customer tells you the year, make, and model vehicle and the broken part you look it up on a computer and then pull the corresponding Part # off of the shelf. Anyone can do it believe me and the jobs are not hard to get just show up and dont fail the drug test and they'll take you even if you're on life support.


I think I'm gonna look into that. And for the unicru apps, i forgot to mention to not make a restart code and password. there's really no reason. plus i think it tracks your social sec. # so it's possible you may not be able to start over after a dry run.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:26 PM

And please don't be offended if I suggest something ...


Re: "Me- I applied for a job a while ago and now I see you are hiring again. Why didn't anyone call me?"


Perhaps rather than the above, I wonder if something similar to be below could be used:

"Good morning, I applied for a job a while ago and I wonder if you could help me. I haven't heard back yet but understand ____ is now hiring again. Is it possible to pull my record, please, as I'm still very interested in working for _______?"

In the first instance, "Why didn't anyone call me" - even though not intended that way, I'm sure, it can give the impression of being accusatory - which instantly puts the person being spoken to on the defensive and far from willing to help.

And while the person answering the phone is rarely in a position to do the hiring, never underestimate the help they can give to those they take an immediate liking to - and few people don't react positively to a sincere request for assistance.

And try not to laugh when I suggest that when one is speaking on the phone - smile! Smiling automatically seems to change the tone of our voice and few things are as important with a telephone conversation as that as after all, they can't see our faces.
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